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have you so joining me in just a 16 00:01:01,760 --> 00:00:58,980 bit is Carol Caro behind the Obsidian 17 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:01,770 curtain on kgr a morgue Antonio of 18 00:01:05,960 --> 00:01:04,290 Scotto a radio and kgr a Brian Sprague 19 00:01:08,870 --> 00:01:05,970 of somewhere in the skies podcast which 20 00:01:13,219 --> 00:01:08,880 is also on kgr a radio and of course 21 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:13,229 Jason McClellan of rogue planet TV Jason 22 00:01:15,590 --> 00:01:14,490 we're just gonna welcoming you and his 23 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:15,600 family tonight 24 00:01:19,910 --> 00:01:17,850 but this is our first time hanging out 25 00:01:22,429 --> 00:01:19,920 and for those that are listening I am 26 00:01:24,109 --> 00:01:22,439 trying to record this on video so 27 00:01:26,330 --> 00:01:24,119 hopefully we will catch this magical 28 00:01:29,719 --> 00:01:26,340 moment in real Technicolor and share it 29 00:01:32,090 --> 00:01:29,729 with you later if not we have this air 30 00:01:34,429 --> 00:01:32,100 for you as you know normally tuned in so 31 00:01:36,380 --> 00:01:34,439 as we go please share your thoughts and 32 00:01:38,539 --> 00:01:36,390 experiences with us during or after the 33 00:01:41,060 --> 00:01:38,549 show on facebook facebook.com slash 34 00:01:43,310 --> 00:01:41,070 paranoia now radio twitter at paranormal 35 00:01:44,719 --> 00:01:43,320 underscore now and of course join us in 36 00:01:47,539 --> 00:01:44,729 the cage er a chat room where you can 37 00:01:49,789 --> 00:01:47,549 share your thoughts questions gripes 38 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:49,799 whatever it is and just look at 39 00:01:53,090 --> 00:01:50,970 something for some of those gifs in 40 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:53,100 there it's a it's a dangerous it's 41 00:01:57,830 --> 00:01:54,810 dangerous we rode in the cage er a chat 42 00:02:00,109 --> 00:01:57,840 room on occasion but you all know who 43 00:02:02,810 --> 00:02:00,119 you are all right so the open lines will 44 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:02,820 be open later tonight for you to call in 45 00:02:07,700 --> 00:02:05,130 ask our guests your questions and 46 00:02:10,010 --> 00:02:07,710 honestly I do want to hear from you what 47 00:02:13,010 --> 00:02:10,020 your experience is like right right now 48 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:13,020 dealing with Cova 19 in the situation 49 00:02:15,810 --> 00:02:13,690 that we are 50 00:02:18,510 --> 00:02:15,820 all in together so if you want to sound 51 00:02:19,410 --> 00:02:18,520 off go ahead and call eight 5kg are a 52 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:19,420 live 53 00:02:25,380 --> 00:02:21,370 that's the paranormal radio app hotline 54 00:02:30,750 --> 00:02:25,390 8 5kg are a live or eight five five four 55 00:02:33,210 --> 00:02:30,760 seven two five four eight three alright 56 00:02:35,940 --> 00:02:33,220 so I just want to bring a couple of 57 00:02:38,910 --> 00:02:35,950 things to your attention for those of us 58 00:02:40,700 --> 00:02:38,920 in the New York area if you are curious 59 00:02:44,010 --> 00:02:40,710 about helping out or volunteering 60 00:02:47,820 --> 00:02:44,020 there's a group called invisible hands 61 00:02:52,620 --> 00:02:47,830 in NYC you can go to WWN visible hands 62 00:02:55,710 --> 00:02:52,630 deliver calm now this is a food delivery 63 00:03:00,420 --> 00:02:55,720 service for those particularly elderly 64 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:00,430 who can't get out and get food that said 65 00:03:04,230 --> 00:03:02,410 if you're going to do that considering 66 00:03:07,050 --> 00:03:04,240 the latest proclamations by the federal 67 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:07,060 government make sure you have the gear 68 00:03:10,740 --> 00:03:08,890 masks gloves and whatever you need to 69 00:03:13,530 --> 00:03:10,750 wear and I would implore you before 70 00:03:15,690 --> 00:03:13,540 jumping in just contact invisible hands 71 00:03:18,300 --> 00:03:15,700 and have a conversation with them and 72 00:03:20,190 --> 00:03:18,310 make sure you're ready to go so you can 73 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:20,200 find their email and contact right on 74 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:23,530 that splash page on their website other 75 00:03:29,460 --> 00:03:26,290 news contact in the desert is canceled 76 00:03:33,180 --> 00:03:29,470 and will be rescheduled for June 4th to 77 00:03:35,310 --> 00:03:33,190 June seventh of the year 2021 that's a 78 00:03:38,490 --> 00:03:35,320 long time it's well over a year so that 79 00:03:39,690 --> 00:03:38,500 that's a major downer and of course 80 00:03:41,370 --> 00:03:39,700 there's so many things we could talk 81 00:03:43,740 --> 00:03:41,380 about as far as cancellations and 82 00:03:46,650 --> 00:03:43,750 tonight you know I welcome the guests 83 00:03:49,740 --> 00:03:46,660 here my friends and colleagues who I all 84 00:03:51,810 --> 00:03:49,750 appreciate very much to share their 85 00:03:54,210 --> 00:03:51,820 experiences what it's like for them 86 00:03:56,370 --> 00:03:54,220 going through Kovan 19 I know Ryan just 87 00:03:57,420 --> 00:03:56,380 did a podcast that I was fortunate to be 88 00:04:00,830 --> 00:03:57,430 a part of thanks Ryan 89 00:04:05,430 --> 00:04:00,840 where he he had a whole slew of 90 00:04:07,229 --> 00:04:05,440 podcasters share their support their 91 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:07,239 suggestions for to get through through 92 00:04:11,670 --> 00:04:09,970 this and I think that all of us in this 93 00:04:14,340 --> 00:04:11,680 field should be doing that for each 94 00:04:16,470 --> 00:04:14,350 other and together so you go check out 95 00:04:19,909 --> 00:04:16,480 that podcast as well that's somewhere in 96 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:19,919 the skies and tonight yeah yeah so let's 97 00:04:25,380 --> 00:04:22,090 let's just let's just tell it like it is 98 00:04:27,310 --> 00:04:25,390 so I'm gonna start with Carol Carl from 99 00:04:31,900 --> 00:04:27,320 kgr a behind the 100 00:04:33,430 --> 00:04:31,910 Curtin and Carol um what's your 101 00:04:37,180 --> 00:04:33,440 experience been like so far dealing with 102 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:37,190 Cova 19 well it's a crazy thing you know 103 00:04:43,030 --> 00:04:39,490 living in earthquake country as we do 104 00:04:44,110 --> 00:04:43,040 there is that component of visible 105 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:44,120 damage 106 00:04:48,330 --> 00:04:46,010 well that doesn't exist with us we're 107 00:04:51,090 --> 00:04:48,340 dealing with an invisible little critter 108 00:04:53,500 --> 00:04:51,100 as I go through the neighborhood 109 00:04:56,500 --> 00:04:53,510 construction work is still going on on 110 00:04:59,500 --> 00:04:56,510 some new homes the schools of course are 111 00:05:01,900 --> 00:04:59,510 shut we're about two blocks to the east 112 00:05:05,110 --> 00:05:01,910 of the Claremont Colleges that's five 113 00:05:08,110 --> 00:05:05,120 combined colleges separate quarters etc 114 00:05:10,840 --> 00:05:08,120 sharing a campus and as of March 23rd 115 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:10,850 those students are all gone and I must 116 00:05:15,970 --> 00:05:13,730 say it's something that I experienced 117 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:15,980 when they normally go home which is and 118 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:18,530 you know late May after graduation which 119 00:05:23,050 --> 00:05:20,450 ain't gonna happen 120 00:05:26,010 --> 00:05:23,060 there is a distinct I don't know it's a 121 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:26,020 difference in the buzz the vibes hum 122 00:05:30,940 --> 00:05:28,610 probably some of it is you know real 123 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:30,950 sound but it may just be a perception 124 00:05:37,660 --> 00:05:34,370 but as of March 23rd they're all gone 125 00:05:42,130 --> 00:05:37,670 home and they're not coming back I 126 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:42,140 noticed something strange at pre-dawn 127 00:05:49,060 --> 00:05:45,650 okay the sound of traffic on the 10 128 00:05:51,370 --> 00:05:49,070 freeway which I think probably is about 129 00:05:54,750 --> 00:05:51,380 a mile and a half from us is distinctly 130 00:05:58,150 --> 00:05:54,760 the same which is a mind blow however 131 00:06:00,700 --> 00:05:58,160 we're a little more than two blocks 132 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:00,710 south of route 66 Foothill Boulevard and 133 00:06:06,430 --> 00:06:03,770 that traffic is exactly the same the 134 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:06,440 satyr night Saturday night traffic was 135 00:06:12,490 --> 00:06:10,010 exactly the same so that is that's kind 136 00:06:15,250 --> 00:06:12,500 of it's an unusual thing but again this 137 00:06:17,230 --> 00:06:15,260 we see no damage to the infrastructure 138 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:17,240 are our lights our power the grid has 139 00:06:22,930 --> 00:06:19,730 not gone down so that is profoundly 140 00:06:24,220 --> 00:06:22,940 different in terms of what you think you 141 00:06:27,490 --> 00:06:24,230 know a country in crisis would 142 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:27,500 experience and that's it I don't have a 143 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:29,810 you know an enormous robust social life 144 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:32,210 my cyber friends we're all still in 145 00:06:37,450 --> 00:06:34,010 touch in fact of course as everybody's 146 00:06:40,690 --> 00:06:37,460 experiencing more than ever and bless 147 00:06:44,260 --> 00:06:40,700 the Internet so yeah and that 148 00:06:44,830 --> 00:06:44,270 does it for me where we are probably an 149 00:06:51,010 --> 00:06:44,840 hour 150 00:06:54,090 --> 00:06:51,020 of Los Angeles at but still in LA County 151 00:06:57,310 --> 00:06:54,100 and I know they are hard hit I know that 152 00:07:00,160 --> 00:06:57,320 what has yet to impact in real numbers 153 00:07:03,250 --> 00:07:00,170 is the significant homeless population 154 00:07:06,670 --> 00:07:03,260 and that is that's that's really a 155 00:07:08,980 --> 00:07:06,680 heartbreak when that happens if it's not 156 00:07:11,890 --> 00:07:08,990 already happening I didn't listen to 157 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:11,900 local news today that that's going to be 158 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:13,970 awful I know there is a ship that is 159 00:07:19,870 --> 00:07:17,450 docked now in San Pedro Harbor which I 160 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:19,880 think it's called the mercy and this is 161 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:24,250 an effort to take non-infected kovat 19 162 00:07:30,790 --> 00:07:28,490 patients it is for people who are having 163 00:07:34,180 --> 00:07:30,800 non elective surgeries shall we say 164 00:07:37,300 --> 00:07:34,190 medical events crises so that they are 165 00:07:39,790 --> 00:07:37,310 not contaminated in a hospital and 166 00:07:43,180 --> 00:07:39,800 that's all I got you know it's a 167 00:07:44,620 --> 00:07:43,190 interesting you mentioned what 168 00:07:48,070 --> 00:07:44,630 emergencies because I remember when I 169 00:07:49,780 --> 00:07:48,080 was younger in the good old 80s we were 170 00:07:51,940 --> 00:07:49,790 the art our grid was still having 171 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:51,950 blackouts so I remember being a kid 172 00:07:56,860 --> 00:07:54,650 loving when a blackout would happen and 173 00:08:00,100 --> 00:07:56,870 we'd have to light the candles you know 174 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:00,110 I I love that experience I'm sure my 175 00:08:06,250 --> 00:08:03,170 parents didn't so much okay but you know 176 00:08:08,740 --> 00:08:06,260 I think for a lot of us who are just old 177 00:08:13,450 --> 00:08:08,750 enough we've been through a certain 178 00:08:16,030 --> 00:08:13,460 number of emergency situations social 179 00:08:17,970 --> 00:08:16,040 breakdowns and that sort that it kind of 180 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:17,980 Prime's you a little bit to get prepared 181 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:20,450 for an event like this even though this 182 00:08:25,090 --> 00:08:23,330 is unique there are elements of this 183 00:08:27,670 --> 00:08:25,100 event that we've all experienced to some 184 00:08:29,950 --> 00:08:27,680 degree before but people who are much 185 00:08:33,430 --> 00:08:29,960 younger in their teens and early 186 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:33,440 twenties this is a brand new thing for 187 00:08:39,700 --> 00:08:37,010 them all together so I don't know Ryan 188 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:39,710 have you spoken to to anyone in 189 00:08:44,260 --> 00:08:41,810 particular that's you know from in their 190 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:44,270 20s a younger generation that really is 191 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:47,450 confused doesn't know what to do or yeah 192 00:08:53,170 --> 00:08:49,850 I mean I have a younger sister who lives 193 00:08:54,130 --> 00:08:53,180 in the central New York area so a lot of 194 00:08:56,230 --> 00:08:54,140 the room 195 00:08:59,530 --> 00:08:56,240 rules and regulations and policies in 196 00:09:02,200 --> 00:08:59,540 New York City are also in central knee 197 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:02,210 or to and yeah she comes from a 198 00:09:08,380 --> 00:09:05,450 generation that was just on the cusp of 199 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:08,390 9/11 which i think is what a lot of New 200 00:09:12,790 --> 00:09:10,970 Yorkers are I don't want to say 201 00:09:14,890 --> 00:09:12,800 comparing it to that because they are 202 00:09:18,220 --> 00:09:14,900 two completely different things but the 203 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:18,230 the city and the way that this specific 204 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:21,530 city is dealing with it and kind of how 205 00:09:27,460 --> 00:09:24,290 things are going it's very quiet 206 00:09:27,970 --> 00:09:27,470 it's very people are trying to help each 207 00:09:31,810 --> 00:09:27,980 other 208 00:09:34,570 --> 00:09:31,820 but unlike 9/11 it's we can't just go 209 00:09:36,940 --> 00:09:34,580 out and help you know these businesses 210 00:09:40,780 --> 00:09:36,950 because everything's closed we we can't 211 00:09:44,140 --> 00:09:40,790 even hug one another because so it's a 212 00:09:46,060 --> 00:09:44,150 very different thing in some respects 213 00:09:48,130 --> 00:09:46,070 but I do hear a lot of people who were 214 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:48,140 in New York City during 9/11 sort of 215 00:09:51,250 --> 00:09:49,730 compare it to that but you know 216 00:09:53,350 --> 00:09:51,260 multiplied by a thousand this is 217 00:09:55,420 --> 00:09:53,360 affecting yeah 9/11 affected the whole 218 00:09:58,750 --> 00:09:55,430 world but in no way like a pandemic does 219 00:10:01,060 --> 00:09:58,760 so it's been interesting trying to just 220 00:10:03,580 --> 00:10:01,070 keep up with it and every time we think 221 00:10:07,210 --> 00:10:03,590 that you know we're kind of on the cusp 222 00:10:10,210 --> 00:10:07,220 of something a resolution a decrease 223 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:10,220 it's just the questions just keep rising 224 00:10:15,610 --> 00:10:13,610 so yeah it's it's uncertain but things 225 00:10:18,250 --> 00:10:15,620 like this or what are keeping me going 226 00:10:20,470 --> 00:10:18,260 and you know like the podcast I did - 227 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:20,480 that was more for me Tiffani complete 228 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:22,370 therapy I wanted to hear from other 229 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:24,770 people how do you deal with this cuz I 230 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:26,450 don't know how either 231 00:10:32,170 --> 00:10:29,810 I'm scared one minute I'm sad the next 232 00:10:35,680 --> 00:10:32,180 I'm fine right now talking to you guys 233 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:35,690 so it's very bipolar I guess that's so 234 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:37,490 good no I think that's a good 235 00:10:41,410 --> 00:10:39,050 descriptive right there yeah cuz one 236 00:10:42,430 --> 00:10:41,420 second you know I'm like look it's out 237 00:10:42,910 --> 00:10:42,440 of our control there's nothing you can 238 00:10:44,860 --> 00:10:42,920 do 239 00:10:46,510 --> 00:10:44,870 and I'm like pretty Zen about it and 240 00:10:49,180 --> 00:10:46,520 then the next second like an anxiety 241 00:10:50,380 --> 00:10:49,190 hits and I'm like wait but we don't know 242 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:50,390 what's gonna happen in three weeks you 243 00:10:54,700 --> 00:10:52,370 know exonic because they just changed 244 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:54,710 this thing today but for me it's like 245 00:10:59,880 --> 00:10:57,410 the not knowing and just like letting go 246 00:11:03,520 --> 00:10:59,890 and just accepting that we don't know 247 00:11:05,170 --> 00:11:03,530 helps in that in that regard mark what 248 00:11:08,310 --> 00:11:05,180 about your yourself how are you handling 249 00:11:15,730 --> 00:11:12,879 well I'm I don't get out much 250 00:11:17,980 --> 00:11:15,740 and the reason for that is I own my own 251 00:11:20,259 --> 00:11:17,990 company right so I'm always doing work 252 00:11:22,300 --> 00:11:20,269 I'm doing a navy project right now I 253 00:11:25,930 --> 00:11:22,310 have a 10 foot submarine in my shop but 254 00:11:28,620 --> 00:11:25,940 I'm building for Uncle Sam now the show 255 00:11:32,050 --> 00:11:28,630 that it was supposed to be on or in in 256 00:11:35,230 --> 00:11:32,060 has been cancelled but they still want 257 00:11:38,590 --> 00:11:35,240 it and it's a new design of a submarine 258 00:11:40,780 --> 00:11:38,600 so I'm heads down on that but I can't 259 00:11:43,389 --> 00:11:40,790 say this hasn't touched me either I mean 260 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:43,399 two of my niece's have corona you know 261 00:11:50,410 --> 00:11:45,050 they were just diagnosed yesterday or a 262 00:11:52,750 --> 00:11:50,420 day before but you know what it still 263 00:11:54,579 --> 00:11:52,760 isn't causing the same types of deaths 264 00:11:56,650 --> 00:11:54,589 that the regular flu has I'm not saying 265 00:12:00,400 --> 00:11:56,660 it's a regular flu its virulent I 266 00:12:03,100 --> 00:12:00,410 recognize that but we're in a media age 267 00:12:05,980 --> 00:12:03,110 and Jason might know this best actually 268 00:12:10,569 --> 00:12:05,990 from his background I think we're in a 269 00:12:13,420 --> 00:12:10,579 media age where once the media latches 270 00:12:15,819 --> 00:12:13,430 onto something and calls it bad then 271 00:12:17,710 --> 00:12:15,829 they continue to push it and push it and 272 00:12:18,370 --> 00:12:17,720 push it until it just stinks to high 273 00:12:21,100 --> 00:12:18,380 heaven 274 00:12:23,079 --> 00:12:21,110 and I read an article which I passed 275 00:12:26,410 --> 00:12:23,089 around countless times my thumbs are 276 00:12:29,199 --> 00:12:26,420 tired from texting it it's an article by 277 00:12:33,509 --> 00:12:29,209 a doctor dr. Ryan itis and he's 278 00:12:38,110 --> 00:12:33,519 Stanford's chief of Medicine and he has 279 00:12:39,699 --> 00:12:38,120 he has a PhD in biomedicine okay and 280 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:39,709 biomechanical and that's right 281 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:43,250 biomedicine and he basically has an 282 00:12:48,460 --> 00:12:44,569 article out there that you should look 283 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:48,470 up it's on stat you know stat news I 284 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:51,050 think of stat news.com and the article 285 00:12:58,030 --> 00:12:55,370 is titled basically it's a fiasco in the 286 00:13:01,689 --> 00:12:58,040 making this whole virus it's a deadly 287 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:01,699 virus yes you know but the key thing we 288 00:13:09,009 --> 00:13:07,010 that I think here and around here we see 289 00:13:11,170 --> 00:13:09,019 we hear people who have the flu and most 290 00:13:13,629 --> 00:13:11,180 people are gonna survive this there's 291 00:13:16,030 --> 00:13:13,639 people I probably have seen within the 292 00:13:18,730 --> 00:13:16,040 last 24 hours that probably you'll have 293 00:13:20,230 --> 00:13:18,740 it you know but it's gonna be probably 294 00:13:20,750 --> 00:13:20,240 mild for them and they'll never even go 295 00:13:22,820 --> 00:13:20,760 in the doctor 296 00:13:25,550 --> 00:13:22,830 never even know they had it those are 297 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:25,560 the vast uncounted numbers which are 298 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:27,090 going to drive down the mortality rate 299 00:13:34,910 --> 00:13:33,450 of this virus so around here the only 300 00:13:36,620 --> 00:13:34,920 thing I could say that was different 301 00:13:39,860 --> 00:13:36,630 is my son was coming home from Rhode 302 00:13:42,020 --> 00:13:39,870 Island the other night and he goes by 303 00:13:43,610 --> 00:13:42,030 the sub-base yeah and he goes over a 304 00:13:46,190 --> 00:13:43,620 bridge which goes over the River Thames 305 00:13:48,830 --> 00:13:46,200 which is right in Groton New London 306 00:13:51,620 --> 00:13:48,840 Connecticut usually that bridge is 307 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:51,630 packed with cars and as he was coming 308 00:13:56,420 --> 00:13:53,850 home at 7 o'clock at night there wasn't 309 00:13:57,860 --> 00:13:56,430 a single car in sight ahead or behind 310 00:14:00,320 --> 00:13:57,870 him and he was the only one on the 311 00:14:02,060 --> 00:14:00,330 bridge actually thought the highway was 312 00:14:05,150 --> 00:14:02,070 closed and he thought oh am I in the 313 00:14:08,630 --> 00:14:05,160 walking dead oh yeah it feels like that 314 00:14:10,100 --> 00:14:08,640 yeah you know but so little things 315 00:14:11,750 --> 00:14:10,110 change you know I had to go to the auto 316 00:14:13,820 --> 00:14:11,760 parts store to get some oil for my truck 317 00:14:16,460 --> 00:14:13,830 tonight and they close at 8:00 I got 318 00:14:17,870 --> 00:14:16,470 there at 7:00 they were closed so we're 319 00:14:22,820 --> 00:14:17,880 shifting their hours you know that kind 320 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:22,830 of thing I'm I don't I don't think that 321 00:14:28,190 --> 00:14:25,610 there's any major changes other than 322 00:14:30,410 --> 00:14:28,200 ours changing I mean I've gone down the 323 00:14:32,810 --> 00:14:30,420 the main road here in Bristol 324 00:14:34,730 --> 00:14:32,820 Connecticut everyone to Bristol and you 325 00:14:37,910 --> 00:14:34,740 know a TGI Fridays has an empty parking 326 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:37,920 lot you know take out okay Burger King 327 00:14:41,630 --> 00:14:39,450 empty parking lot but you can do takeout 328 00:14:43,870 --> 00:14:41,640 so everyone's changing the style of how 329 00:14:46,070 --> 00:14:43,880 they're doing business for the moment 330 00:14:49,490 --> 00:14:46,080 but they're all losing money you know 331 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:49,500 and that's obviously a problem you know 332 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:52,290 but still as far as I'm concerned 333 00:15:00,730 --> 00:14:55,890 I just haven't seen too much but then 334 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:02,660 thanks for Mark with Jason what about 335 00:15:06,890 --> 00:15:03,650 yourself 336 00:15:08,930 --> 00:15:06,900 well like Mark I I don't really get out 337 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:08,940 all that often and a large part of that 338 00:15:13,580 --> 00:15:11,370 is because I'm fortunate to work at home 339 00:15:15,230 --> 00:15:13,590 so I don't have a daily commute like a 340 00:15:16,250 --> 00:15:15,240 lot of people do and that's true mean a 341 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:16,260 whole lot of people's lives are 342 00:15:20,210 --> 00:15:18,090 different right now without that daily 343 00:15:23,420 --> 00:15:20,220 commute being shut at home biggest 344 00:15:26,390 --> 00:15:23,430 difference for me is my wife is a law 345 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:26,400 professor and her having to be home and 346 00:15:30,260 --> 00:15:28,770 shifting everything she does and you 347 00:15:32,450 --> 00:15:30,270 know create a curriculum that's online 348 00:15:33,810 --> 00:15:32,460 which you know doesn't really happen for 349 00:15:35,670 --> 00:15:33,820 Law School 350 00:15:37,380 --> 00:15:35,680 trying to figure out how all of that 351 00:15:39,390 --> 00:15:37,390 really works and deal with students who 352 00:15:43,020 --> 00:15:39,400 are juggling and trying to figure out 353 00:15:45,330 --> 00:15:43,030 all of this new process as well it's 354 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:45,340 it's stressful and I feel her stress and 355 00:15:48,830 --> 00:15:47,170 I understand the student stress and it's 356 00:15:52,380 --> 00:15:48,840 it's just weird and it's also weird 357 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:52,390 getting used to having my wife work at 358 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:54,250 home with me mhm we work in different 359 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:56,170 places but you know and we've got 360 00:16:00,540 --> 00:15:58,210 fortunate we have good internet but you 361 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:00,550 know we do try to check each other's 362 00:16:04,350 --> 00:16:02,170 schedules and find out you know make 363 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:04,360 sure I'm not doing a web conference when 364 00:16:10,020 --> 00:16:06,130 she's teaching a class and things like 365 00:16:11,850 --> 00:16:10,030 that so that's been interesting you know 366 00:16:13,860 --> 00:16:11,860 that the public panic is the most 367 00:16:16,140 --> 00:16:13,870 interesting and kind of scary thing to 368 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:16,150 watch and you know that's where I notice 369 00:16:20,790 --> 00:16:19,210 it most when I go out you know and the 370 00:16:23,490 --> 00:16:20,800 only time I do go out is to go to the 371 00:16:25,710 --> 00:16:23,500 grocery store so I order as much online 372 00:16:28,290 --> 00:16:25,720 that I can but what you can get online 373 00:16:29,700 --> 00:16:28,300 is very limited right now so I do have 374 00:16:31,110 --> 00:16:29,710 to go out to the grocery store and you 375 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:31,120 see the grocery stores that are 376 00:16:35,010 --> 00:16:32,530 completely picked over and you see 377 00:16:36,570 --> 00:16:35,020 people every week it's getting 378 00:16:38,970 --> 00:16:36,580 progressively and progressively worse 379 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:38,980 with with the feeders and people taking 380 00:16:42,570 --> 00:16:40,810 precautions which is good I mean you see 381 00:16:45,300 --> 00:16:42,580 people now at the supermarket with 382 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:45,310 gloves on with masks on mm-hmm just like 383 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:49,090 over the top and here in Phoenix we have 384 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:51,610 one of our major grocery stores it's the 385 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:53,530 the Kroger grocery store here called 386 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:55,930 fries they all the Kroger chains have 387 00:16:59,940 --> 00:16:57,970 implemented like these sneeze guards 388 00:17:02,040 --> 00:16:59,950 basically these big plastic shields in 389 00:17:04,980 --> 00:17:02,050 front of the cashiers yeah so they've 390 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:04,990 done that they put signs on the floor to 391 00:17:08,579 --> 00:17:06,850 demonstrate how far apart you should 392 00:17:12,150 --> 00:17:08,589 stand from the person in front of you in 393 00:17:13,710 --> 00:17:12,160 line at checkout yeah I bring my own my 394 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:13,720 own bags to the grocery stores and my 395 00:17:16,199 --> 00:17:15,490 bags up there and because I brought my 396 00:17:17,970 --> 00:17:16,209 own bags 397 00:17:19,380 --> 00:17:17,980 they made me bag my own groceries 398 00:17:23,610 --> 00:17:19,390 because they didn't want to touch my 399 00:17:24,900 --> 00:17:23,620 bags that I brought from home so you 400 00:17:26,939 --> 00:17:24,910 know a lot of these little little 401 00:17:28,980 --> 00:17:26,949 changes that's that's where I notice it 402 00:17:33,270 --> 00:17:28,990 the most but you know for the most part 403 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:33,280 I live at home so don't really notice it 404 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:36,570 all that much in my daily life yeah it's 405 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:40,330 we wear our mess let me go to the 406 00:17:46,770 --> 00:17:44,170 grocery store but it's interesting how 407 00:17:47,490 --> 00:17:46,780 each establishment is handling it 408 00:17:51,830 --> 00:17:47,500 differently 409 00:17:55,380 --> 00:17:51,840 so we went to the store recently and the 410 00:17:56,340 --> 00:17:55,390 there was no splash guard no for the for 411 00:17:56,850 --> 00:17:56,350 the cashiers I think it's a brilliant 412 00:17:58,440 --> 00:17:56,860 idea 413 00:17:59,670 --> 00:17:58,450 I mean they really shouldn't do that 414 00:18:01,850 --> 00:17:59,680 because that's that's what it is it's 415 00:18:04,740 --> 00:18:01,860 you're it's like the littlest particles 416 00:18:06,390 --> 00:18:04,750 droplets that that pass between us I 417 00:18:09,660 --> 00:18:06,400 think that that's smart but if you don't 418 00:18:11,730 --> 00:18:09,670 have that get them a mask I get get your 419 00:18:13,290 --> 00:18:11,740 employees something to protect them 420 00:18:16,950 --> 00:18:13,300 there's a small grocery store nearest 421 00:18:18,510 --> 00:18:16,960 they did that weeks ago and this other 422 00:18:20,490 --> 00:18:18,520 place it's like we're we're two feet 423 00:18:22,740 --> 00:18:20,500 away from this person do you know it and 424 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:22,750 it's really I think I think employers 425 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:24,610 really need to do a better job not all 426 00:18:27,870 --> 00:18:26,170 but some employers really need to do a 427 00:18:29,970 --> 00:18:27,880 better job if you're gonna ask your 428 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:29,980 employees to come into work then then 429 00:18:33,900 --> 00:18:32,170 you better do right by them yeah 430 00:18:36,750 --> 00:18:33,910 absolutely but a big challenge right now 431 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:36,760 is you know the label I can write I mean 432 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:37,930 they can't you don't get the stuff they 433 00:18:40,830 --> 00:18:39,610 need for their employees and I know the 434 00:18:43,380 --> 00:18:40,840 grocery stores they try to do a good job 435 00:18:44,970 --> 00:18:43,390 with you know taking extra measures to 436 00:18:46,710 --> 00:18:44,980 make sure things are clean and I know at 437 00:18:49,380 --> 00:18:46,720 the start of all of this my grocery 438 00:18:50,820 --> 00:18:49,390 store certainly had a lot of wipes as 439 00:18:52,410 --> 00:18:50,830 you walked in so you can wipe your cart 440 00:18:54,540 --> 00:18:52,420 down and whatever else you're gonna 441 00:18:57,690 --> 00:18:54,550 touch those don't exist anymore because 442 00:19:00,090 --> 00:18:57,700 they can't even get wipes so yeah Trader 443 00:19:02,190 --> 00:19:00,100 Joe's same thing I mean for because I 444 00:19:03,900 --> 00:19:02,200 would think about a week they had like 445 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:03,910 wipes the so you can wipe down your cart 446 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:05,770 and then they were gone and that was it 447 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:07,930 there's nothing left to stock but I do 448 00:19:12,390 --> 00:19:09,490 know that in New York I think I was 449 00:19:14,130 --> 00:19:12,400 yesterday or this morning I heard there 450 00:19:16,020 --> 00:19:14,140 was a man who apparently had bought 451 00:19:19,380 --> 00:19:16,030 fifty eighty five thousand 452 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:19,390 masks and he was hoarding them and the 453 00:19:24,120 --> 00:19:22,210 FBI FBI is investigating you know who 454 00:19:26,370 --> 00:19:24,130 purchased however many masks over many 455 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:26,380 months or weeks ago so they busted on 456 00:19:32,490 --> 00:19:28,690 his doors like that you're caught buddy 457 00:19:35,310 --> 00:19:32,500 and that I know that's not everyone and 458 00:19:36,900 --> 00:19:35,320 it doesn't happen a lot but those 85,000 459 00:19:40,140 --> 00:19:36,910 masks can really help out a lot of 460 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:40,150 people like got a mask yeah but then you 461 00:19:44,850 --> 00:19:42,490 have you have great stories of 462 00:19:47,250 --> 00:19:44,860 volunteers sewing handmade masks it's 463 00:19:49,980 --> 00:19:47,260 better than nothing yeah so I mean I 464 00:19:52,020 --> 00:19:49,990 hope grocery stores or places that are 465 00:19:53,790 --> 00:19:52,030 essential at least come up with some 466 00:19:55,380 --> 00:19:53,800 creative ideas like a splash guard or 467 00:19:58,919 --> 00:19:55,390 something like that but I think most 468 00:20:01,020 --> 00:19:58,929 stores are they have the lines in the on 469 00:20:02,310 --> 00:20:01,030 the ground with tape six feet apart 470 00:20:04,890 --> 00:20:02,320 I think that that's that's pretty 471 00:20:06,990 --> 00:20:04,900 standard everywhere and Mark I do want 472 00:20:18,890 --> 00:20:07,000 to say you do look like you are 473 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:18,900 broadcasting from a submarine I do have 474 00:20:31,740 --> 00:20:28,200 my my actual door to come into this 475 00:20:34,140 --> 00:20:31,750 office is actually a hatch if you can 476 00:20:36,090 --> 00:20:34,150 see that's got a wheel is so cool very 477 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:36,100 cool if I got to work here it's gotta be 478 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:39,850 cool right Wow well you know I do a lot 479 00:20:45,210 --> 00:20:41,770 of work for the Navy right so I figured 480 00:20:47,730 --> 00:20:45,220 you know and the heads and not to steal 481 00:20:50,100 --> 00:20:47,740 the topic here but it has backfired on 482 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:50,110 me because what happens is I will do a 483 00:20:55,500 --> 00:20:53,290 job and then the guys down in Groton 484 00:20:57,120 --> 00:20:55,510 will fight to see who's gonna come pick 485 00:21:00,300 --> 00:20:57,130 it up sorry and the seasick but I'm in 486 00:21:01,650 --> 00:21:00,310 the middle of a storm here you see and 487 00:21:02,910 --> 00:21:01,660 they'll fight to come here to pick it up 488 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:02,920 because I like to come into the office 489 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:05,890 and see all this you know but um again I 490 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:07,570 have its visual effects right I mean do 491 00:21:16,470 --> 00:21:14,650 visual effects so mmm anyway something 492 00:21:19,380 --> 00:21:16,480 about those splash guards I went to the 493 00:21:24,750 --> 00:21:19,390 IgA the local supermarket here our small 494 00:21:27,750 --> 00:21:24,760 chain I go to the cash register baked 495 00:21:32,190 --> 00:21:27,760 plexiglass shield to the left of the 496 00:21:33,330 --> 00:21:32,200 credit card machine okay so if you stand 497 00:21:35,550 --> 00:21:33,340 to the left of the credit card machine 498 00:21:37,770 --> 00:21:35,560 the person that they're you know that 499 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:37,780 the register is fine but when you go to 500 00:21:44,250 --> 00:21:41,890 put your credit card in okay it's a 501 00:21:45,360 --> 00:21:44,260 clear shot you know because there's no 502 00:21:47,220 --> 00:21:45,370 glass there I said why didn't they just 503 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:47,230 extend the glass and cut a hole for 504 00:21:51,450 --> 00:21:49,330 people can reach into the - plus the 505 00:21:53,460 --> 00:21:51,460 credit card machine and that the 506 00:21:57,330 --> 00:21:53,470 employees they're all set in unison I 507 00:22:00,450 --> 00:21:57,340 know right I was thinking the same thing 508 00:22:03,150 --> 00:22:00,460 my little sneeze guard it at my grocery 509 00:22:04,950 --> 00:22:03,160 store same thing yes only in front of 510 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:04,960 the cashier when you step over to put 511 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:06,490 your credit card in there's nothing 512 00:22:08,670 --> 00:22:06,850 there 513 00:22:11,490 --> 00:22:08,680 hmm that's right and and the other thing 514 00:22:13,230 --> 00:22:11,500 too is what about us touching the credit 515 00:22:18,180 --> 00:22:13,240 card keys 516 00:22:20,550 --> 00:22:18,190 so I go like this you know flame-broiled 517 00:22:23,250 --> 00:22:20,560 my hand but what did they actually did 518 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:23,260 was I actually took the advice I can't 519 00:22:27,930 --> 00:22:25,810 I'm thinking sure this this is a little 520 00:22:31,500 --> 00:22:27,940 squeeze bottle I don't want to spill it 521 00:22:34,290 --> 00:22:31,510 and this is actually homemade sanitizer 522 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:34,300 I got from CVS I bought 100% or 99% 523 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:38,170 isopropyl alcohol nice Oliver or gel 524 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:40,930 which I already had and then some 525 00:22:45,540 --> 00:22:43,330 essential oils lemon drops which I had 526 00:22:48,090 --> 00:22:45,550 and I said hey I can actually make my 527 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:48,100 own and the stuff I have is far more 528 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:51,250 potent than the stuff I bought so now I 529 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:54,250 can make my own for as long as I want to 530 00:22:58,170 --> 00:22:55,570 and I think I'll be doing that for some 531 00:22:59,760 --> 00:22:58,180 time to come because I know it's it 532 00:23:07,260 --> 00:22:59,770 smells nice smell like lemons 533 00:23:09,510 --> 00:23:07,270 I'm lemony fresh so it's well I'm we're 534 00:23:10,950 --> 00:23:09,520 gonna have to go to the break here guys 535 00:23:12,900 --> 00:23:10,960 so when we come back on the other side 536 00:23:14,970 --> 00:23:12,910 we can still talk about our situation 537 00:23:17,250 --> 00:23:14,980 here as it is but of course we have to 538 00:23:19,140 --> 00:23:17,260 get into ufology and the paranormal I've 539 00:23:21,060 --> 00:23:19,150 got a great crew here tonight so we have 540 00:23:23,940 --> 00:23:21,070 to touch on a multitude of subjects some 541 00:23:27,510 --> 00:23:23,950 of which we had discussed briefly before 542 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:27,520 and before we go to break I just want to 543 00:23:31,010 --> 00:23:29,650 read this for everyone listening from 544 00:23:33,930 --> 00:23:31,020 nbcnews.com 545 00:23:35,820 --> 00:23:33,940 new information from the IRS on Monday 546 00:23:37,350 --> 00:23:35,830 shines more light on what people can do 547 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:37,360 to get the checks from the government as 548 00:23:41,250 --> 00:23:39,730 quickly as possible while many families 549 00:23:44,190 --> 00:23:41,260 worry about paying the bills and buying 550 00:23:45,990 --> 00:23:44,200 food during the coronavirus crisis for 551 00:23:48,270 --> 00:23:46,000 Americans eligible for stimulus cash 552 00:23:50,340 --> 00:23:48,280 under the new relief law the fastest way 553 00:23:55,050 --> 00:23:50,350 to receive it is to make sure they've 554 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:55,060 filed a tax return for 2019 or 2018 with 555 00:24:00,150 --> 00:23:56,650 bank information so that the government 556 00:24:02,580 --> 00:24:00,160 can directly deposit the money the IRS 557 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:02,590 says it will use a person's 2019 return 558 00:24:05,790 --> 00:24:04,450 to calculate eligibility and 559 00:24:08,130 --> 00:24:05,800 automatically send the money to those 560 00:24:11,430 --> 00:24:08,140 who qualify if they haven't filed a 2019 561 00:24:13,650 --> 00:24:11,440 return it'll be based on the 2018 return 562 00:24:17,250 --> 00:24:13,660 so just keep that in mind and my 563 00:24:20,820 --> 00:24:17,260 understanding is that the twelve hundred 564 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:20,830 dollar check that would go to each adult 565 00:24:27,100 --> 00:24:23,650 individual is if you make individually 566 00:24:30,370 --> 00:24:27,110 75 thousand or less per 567 00:24:32,889 --> 00:24:30,380 if you're a married couple filed jointly 568 00:24:36,070 --> 00:24:32,899 in your tax statement then if you're 569 00:24:40,090 --> 00:24:36,080 under $150,000 whether one of you makes 570 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:40,100 more than 170 more than 75 it doesn't 571 00:24:44,740 --> 00:24:41,690 matter if your total between the two of 572 00:24:47,769 --> 00:24:44,750 you is 150 or less you will get the 573 00:24:49,450 --> 00:24:47,779 stimulus check for 1,200 each beyond 574 00:24:50,889 --> 00:24:49,460 that there's so much more to come I'm 575 00:24:52,779 --> 00:24:50,899 sure another Simlish package is coming 576 00:24:54,399 --> 00:24:52,789 so anyway keep that in mind positive 577 00:25:05,039 --> 00:24:54,409 news to come Allenby Smith for kg are a 578 00:25:05,049 --> 00:25:42,280 you 579 00:25:46,659 --> 00:25:44,200 welcome back to paranormal now this is 580 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:46,669 Ellen B Smith your most grateful host on 581 00:25:54,010 --> 00:25:50,570 kgr a radio stay tuned for the last hour 582 00:25:59,950 --> 00:25:54,020 we will open up the phone lines for you 583 00:26:02,830 --> 00:25:59,960 to call 85kg are a live 85kg are a live 584 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:02,840 so you can sound off ask your guests our 585 00:26:06,340 --> 00:26:04,730 gas your questions and share your 586 00:26:09,220 --> 00:26:06,350 thoughts on everything we talk about 587 00:26:13,630 --> 00:26:09,230 tonight and the Cova decks perience for 588 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:13,640 you so there are a number of subjects 589 00:26:18,610 --> 00:26:15,770 that I think that I'd like to talk about 590 00:26:19,930 --> 00:26:18,620 tonight so I will start off with one 591 00:26:24,850 --> 00:26:19,940 that is probably the most controversial 592 00:26:28,180 --> 00:26:24,860 and that is David Wilcock video recently 593 00:26:32,020 --> 00:26:28,190 that he posted on YouTube and I can see 594 00:26:37,870 --> 00:26:32,030 mark cringing right now as we move into 595 00:26:41,950 --> 00:26:37,880 it the only one and it is a it's a 596 00:26:47,620 --> 00:26:41,960 straight-up conspiracy theory however I 597 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:47,630 will say this that when the coronavirus 598 00:26:51,430 --> 00:26:49,730 first released or anytime I hear about 599 00:26:53,590 --> 00:26:51,440 some virus that goes wild 600 00:26:56,950 --> 00:26:53,600 I think there's absolutely nothing wrong 601 00:26:59,560 --> 00:26:56,960 with just wondering like hey maybe maybe 602 00:27:02,169 --> 00:26:59,570 that was something that should not have 603 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:02,179 been let out of a lab I get that you 604 00:27:12,190 --> 00:27:07,610 know that's I think a fair a fair line 605 00:27:14,530 --> 00:27:12,200 of inquiry but you've got to really back 606 00:27:20,110 --> 00:27:14,540 that up if you're going to make 607 00:27:21,789 --> 00:27:20,120 assertions that it is fact so well you 608 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:21,799 know I'll just let you go ahead mark and 609 00:27:32,409 --> 00:27:25,250 and share what you have to say on his 610 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:32,419 idea that this is a calling virus well 611 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:35,330 any virus is a culling virus by 612 00:27:42,909 --> 00:27:38,210 definition sure if people die they're 613 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:42,919 called okay so you know so he's always 614 00:27:49,900 --> 00:27:46,250 right about that you know and guys like 615 00:27:52,110 --> 00:27:49,910 this always say things such that they 616 00:27:55,419 --> 00:27:52,120 have an excuse if it doesn't come true 617 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:55,429 you know like the Oracles of old you 618 00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:56,450 know they say 619 00:28:00,520 --> 00:27:58,610 certain language so they can be excused 620 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:00,530 if they're not quite accurate which 621 00:28:05,110 --> 00:28:02,810 usually he's not 622 00:28:08,710 --> 00:28:05,120 he also said there'll be three days of 623 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:08,720 darkness - did you get that which no 624 00:28:16,900 --> 00:28:11,450 phones right yeah I'm sorry we got Skype 625 00:28:22,270 --> 00:28:16,910 right now this is the internet oh and 626 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:22,280 there's gonna be mass arrests what of 627 00:28:30,370 --> 00:28:27,170 who why no I mean any base that on the 628 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:30,380 fact that 30,000 US troops have 629 00:28:35,230 --> 00:28:32,210 apparently been mobilized to Italy 630 00:28:37,330 --> 00:28:35,240 mm-hmm no no that can't be for yeah it 631 00:28:40,210 --> 00:28:37,340 can't possibly be for humanitarian aid 632 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:40,220 can it gee what would make you think 633 00:28:46,780 --> 00:28:43,970 that you know I just I just have a 634 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:46,790 problem with with Corey Goode and David 635 00:28:53,380 --> 00:28:50,570 Wilcock Perpetual fabricators in my view 636 00:28:55,870 --> 00:28:53,390 and I'm public about that I've asked him 637 00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:55,880 a million times give me proof show me 638 00:29:01,090 --> 00:28:58,490 proof and they just choose to say look 639 00:29:03,670 --> 00:29:01,100 over here you know and they they play 640 00:29:05,470 --> 00:29:03,680 the old misdirection game and you know 641 00:29:08,730 --> 00:29:05,480 and then they always like to say things 642 00:29:11,170 --> 00:29:08,740 like well prove that it's not true 643 00:29:14,740 --> 00:29:11,180 that's the proving a negative thing it's 644 00:29:17,350 --> 00:29:14,750 like no prove that it is true that the 645 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:17,360 burdens on you and they just never seem 646 00:29:22,540 --> 00:29:19,850 to take the challenge and in this latest 647 00:29:26,020 --> 00:29:22,550 thing same thing he's just struggling to 648 00:29:29,980 --> 00:29:26,030 be relevant in my view Carol what do you 649 00:29:32,980 --> 00:29:29,990 think I totally concur it's it's this 650 00:29:35,620 --> 00:29:32,990 leap it's a it's a kind of I don't know 651 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:35,630 if it's the look-at-me generation that 652 00:29:41,710 --> 00:29:39,170 he is they are playing - but it's sort 653 00:29:43,090 --> 00:29:41,720 of you know and I just the words fear 654 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:43,100 porn come to me 655 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:45,290 it isn't just mainstream media that's 656 00:29:52,030 --> 00:29:49,610 doing this generating this it's uh it's 657 00:29:55,060 --> 00:29:52,040 sort of like ah here's how I can segue 658 00:29:57,910 --> 00:29:55,070 my particular topic into what is now 659 00:30:00,280 --> 00:29:57,920 currently relevant but it's not relevant 660 00:30:04,060 --> 00:30:00,290 it's um it's manufactured it's it's 661 00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:04,070 manipulated like solar warden yeah there 662 00:30:07,540 --> 00:30:06,110 there you go the whole solar warden 663 00:30:09,910 --> 00:30:07,550 thing I just hadn't went through a whole 664 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:09,920 conversation about that on line two 665 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:11,210 sorry keeping my hand in front of the 666 00:30:17,770 --> 00:30:13,370 camera but put it there instead of over 667 00:30:20,730 --> 00:30:17,780 there there we go but the so again and 668 00:30:24,070 --> 00:30:20,740 that's Cory good sounding off with his 669 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:24,080 fantasies so but but that's it you know 670 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:26,090 III I shouldn't say any more because 671 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:29,090 then I I'll probably get really bad but 672 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:31,130 I try to be professional about it but 673 00:30:37,540 --> 00:30:34,130 when people like that show such a lack 674 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:37,550 of profession ality mm-hmm and they leap 675 00:30:43,390 --> 00:30:40,610 to conclusions and I don't know you know 676 00:30:46,450 --> 00:30:43,400 what you guys think okay 677 00:30:50,140 --> 00:30:46,460 you know these two guys in the corner 678 00:30:51,970 --> 00:30:50,150 down here I'm like I don't know what 679 00:30:53,770 --> 00:30:51,980 they think but I'm like to hear what 680 00:30:56,050 --> 00:30:53,780 they think about it - yeah Jason um 681 00:30:59,590 --> 00:30:56,060 what's what's your feeling on this 682 00:31:05,020 --> 00:30:59,600 particular comment area of David's and 683 00:31:11,740 --> 00:31:05,030 just the idea of you know making 684 00:31:15,370 --> 00:31:11,750 assumptions about dangerous things well 685 00:31:19,990 --> 00:31:15,380 as you stated in introducing this topic 686 00:31:22,090 --> 00:31:20,000 you know things need to be based on fact 687 00:31:23,890 --> 00:31:22,100 you need to be able to have facts to 688 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:23,900 cite to when you're making grand claims 689 00:31:29,230 --> 00:31:25,610 when you're making any claims but 690 00:31:32,950 --> 00:31:29,240 especially grand claims and David has 691 00:31:35,500 --> 00:31:32,960 never been one to deal in facts and I 692 00:31:37,060 --> 00:31:35,510 wouldn't expect him to start now and I 693 00:31:39,430 --> 00:31:37,070 don't think he has any interest in in 694 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:39,440 going down that road because he never 695 00:31:43,540 --> 00:31:41,210 has and doesn't need to he's got his 696 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:43,550 audience he's catering to who he wants 697 00:31:48,010 --> 00:31:46,250 to cater to and it serves him well and 698 00:31:49,660 --> 00:31:48,020 because of that because of his track 699 00:31:52,630 --> 00:31:49,670 record I don't take anything he says 700 00:31:55,450 --> 00:31:52,640 seriously yes you know it's certainly 701 00:31:57,970 --> 00:31:55,460 possible that some of the crazy things 702 00:32:01,270 --> 00:31:57,980 he's saying might have some truth behind 703 00:32:03,130 --> 00:32:01,280 them but number one I don't pay 704 00:32:04,990 --> 00:32:03,140 attention to it because he lost all of 705 00:32:08,740 --> 00:32:05,000 his credibility a long time ago if he 706 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:08,750 even ever had credibility I just it 707 00:32:13,930 --> 00:32:11,330 doesn't doesn't serve me well to to 708 00:32:17,220 --> 00:32:13,940 entertain anything he says if he wants 709 00:32:20,500 --> 00:32:17,230 to bring some proof maybe I'll consider 710 00:32:22,570 --> 00:32:20,510 consider a little bit to look into what 711 00:32:23,379 --> 00:32:22,580 he's saying but from what he's 712 00:32:25,899 --> 00:32:23,389 demonstrated 713 00:32:27,789 --> 00:32:25,909 no reason for me to waste my time to to 714 00:32:28,959 --> 00:32:27,799 even entertain anything that comes out 715 00:32:31,149 --> 00:32:28,969 of his mouth he's somebody who loves 716 00:32:33,249 --> 00:32:31,159 attention people will give him attention 717 00:32:34,629 --> 00:32:33,259 and he's going to continue that I mean I 718 00:32:35,799 --> 00:32:34,639 don't know what year this was mark and I 719 00:32:39,190 --> 00:32:35,809 don't remember if you were there but 720 00:32:42,069 --> 00:32:39,200 this was probably 2009 was the first 721 00:32:43,419 --> 00:32:42,079 time I met him and saw him at a 722 00:32:46,989 --> 00:32:43,429 conference it was the International UFO 723 00:32:49,269 --> 00:32:46,999 Congress in Laughlin and half of his 724 00:32:52,389 --> 00:32:49,279 presentation was spent forcing people to 725 00:32:54,789 --> 00:32:52,399 listen to him play the flute right there 726 00:32:57,669 --> 00:32:54,799 told me how much he needed people to 727 00:32:59,709 --> 00:32:57,679 give him attention okay I can't tell you 728 00:33:03,339 --> 00:32:59,719 how many times I've been tempted to play 729 00:33:10,239 --> 00:33:03,349 my ukulele on the air but I don't need 730 00:33:11,799 --> 00:33:10,249 to do that to you guys it's ya know I 731 00:33:13,779 --> 00:33:11,809 joke around that that's that's for this 732 00:33:15,639 --> 00:33:13,789 mic my own little hobby I don't need to 733 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:15,649 like do that for other people you know 734 00:33:22,029 --> 00:33:17,690 it's just for me I'm bad at it but I 735 00:33:23,949 --> 00:33:22,039 enjoy it you know you but I gaily Alan 736 00:33:31,329 --> 00:33:23,959 and I'll play the didgeridoo and we'll 737 00:33:34,479 --> 00:33:31,339 do a duo house when I play did reduce I 738 00:33:37,930 --> 00:33:34,489 don't know how to make them anyway this 739 00:33:41,229 --> 00:33:37,940 is me Ryan what do you think I mean and 740 00:33:44,229 --> 00:33:41,239 also what do after Ryan makes this 741 00:33:47,399 --> 00:33:44,239 comment what do we all think about just 742 00:33:54,669 --> 00:33:47,409 any sort of conspiracy theory in general 743 00:34:00,669 --> 00:33:54,679 that deal deals with life affecting side 744 00:34:04,479 --> 00:34:00,679 effects implications yeah so we all are 745 00:34:07,359 --> 00:34:04,489 in a quote-unquote filled with anonymous 746 00:34:11,379 --> 00:34:07,369 sources on substantiate claims I think 747 00:34:15,249 --> 00:34:11,389 at times but I did watch a good portion 748 00:34:17,470 --> 00:34:15,259 of the the video because I actually i 749 00:34:20,379 --> 00:34:17,480 I've never I was not that familiar with 750 00:34:23,980 --> 00:34:20,389 his work yes I know the name Corey good 751 00:34:25,690 --> 00:34:23,990 I know that they worked together with 752 00:34:29,669 --> 00:34:25,700 the blue chicken aliens and what have 753 00:34:30,879 --> 00:34:29,679 you but um sorry I have you I had I 754 00:34:32,379 --> 00:34:30,889 noticed 755 00:34:35,230 --> 00:34:32,389 I'm looking at the video right now it's 756 00:34:36,879 --> 00:34:35,240 got about 10,000 views on YouTube which 757 00:34:42,459 --> 00:34:36,889 is a lot for having just 758 00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:42,469 this morning but like Mark said there 759 00:34:46,959 --> 00:34:45,649 was a PowerPoint presentation throughout 760 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:46,969 the whole thing it was almost three and 761 00:34:51,930 --> 00:34:48,729 a half hours long first of all yeah 762 00:34:54,699 --> 00:34:51,940 three and a half hours of saying nothing 763 00:34:58,630 --> 00:34:54,709 absolutely nothing with the last 10 764 00:35:01,299 --> 00:34:58,640 minutes been promoting his his workshops 765 00:35:05,019 --> 00:35:01,309 in his videos and his wife's workshops 766 00:35:08,229 --> 00:35:05,029 this that watching him talk for that 767 00:35:10,989 --> 00:35:08,239 long it's so clear what his motives are 768 00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:10,999 what his agenda is and people like him 769 00:35:18,670 --> 00:35:14,089 you look at the entire Q movement as 770 00:35:23,259 --> 00:35:18,680 well I know some people buy into it some 771 00:35:25,690 --> 00:35:23,269 don't personally I do not but that's 772 00:35:28,599 --> 00:35:25,700 that's me personally uh but there are 773 00:35:31,900 --> 00:35:28,609 these theories that can be when spoken 774 00:35:32,529 --> 00:35:31,910 on a platform like he has that can be 775 00:35:35,849 --> 00:35:32,539 dangerous 776 00:35:39,660 --> 00:35:35,859 I mean there are conspiracy theorist 777 00:35:43,150 --> 00:35:39,670 youtubers and podcasters who are 778 00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:43,160 demonetized or D platformed daily 779 00:35:47,829 --> 00:35:45,049 because it's dangerous what they're 780 00:35:50,289 --> 00:35:47,839 doing so when it came to this and 781 00:35:52,390 --> 00:35:50,299 telling the world that the Internet's 782 00:35:54,999 --> 00:35:52,400 gonna shut down all the phone lines are 783 00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:55,009 going down mass arrests are gonna occur 784 00:35:59,920 --> 00:35:57,890 this can send people into a panic and 785 00:36:01,660 --> 00:35:59,930 you have no idea how they're gonna react 786 00:36:05,199 --> 00:36:01,670 look at how we're reacting when the 787 00:36:07,449 --> 00:36:05,209 world thought coronavirus was gonna you 788 00:36:10,930 --> 00:36:07,459 needed a billion rolls of toilet paper 789 00:36:12,969 --> 00:36:10,940 to survive this thing well that's 790 00:36:17,709 --> 00:36:12,979 because toilet paper doesn't get corona 791 00:36:27,729 --> 00:36:17,719 don't you get it are you drinking a 792 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:27,739 Corona but I would I won't ramble on I 793 00:36:33,779 --> 00:36:31,130 watched the entire thing I took it for a 794 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:33,789 grayness so with a grain of salt and I 795 00:36:40,359 --> 00:36:37,930 don't believe a single word 796 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:40,369 if the internet shut down I'd be pretty 797 00:36:43,870 --> 00:36:42,890 scary I mean what else would we do in 798 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:43,880 the 21st century 799 00:36:49,470 --> 00:36:46,729 I guess read a book talk to that person 800 00:36:53,099 --> 00:36:49,480 who is next to us 801 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:53,109 yeah so if it happens um egg on my face 802 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:55,210 but I wouldn't get too worried about the 803 00:36:59,220 --> 00:36:56,530 internet shutting down you have to think 804 00:37:01,829 --> 00:36:59,230 if the entire anyway internet went black 805 00:37:04,319 --> 00:37:01,839 I mean hospitals use the Internet on a 806 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:04,329 daily basis doctors law enforcement the 807 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:06,130 military they're not gonna shut the 808 00:37:10,740 --> 00:37:08,770 internet off well do whatever says he's 809 00:37:12,270 --> 00:37:10,750 gonna do who's they 810 00:37:16,260 --> 00:37:12,280 they're shut the internet off keep that 811 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:16,270 in mind you can't there's no switch 812 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:20,650 let's show the Internet Frank very good 813 00:37:29,099 --> 00:37:22,690 point and that's how he left it they are 814 00:37:33,839 --> 00:37:29,109 going to shut off the government runs 815 00:37:36,030 --> 00:37:33,849 the world internet might my feeling 816 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:36,040 about him and and not to be very 817 00:37:43,010 --> 00:37:37,810 specific but he has a he has a specific 818 00:37:45,540 --> 00:37:43,020 agenda okay his agenda is something that 819 00:37:47,460 --> 00:37:45,550 for all for all those who are listening 820 00:37:50,130 --> 00:37:47,470 to radio I just want you to know that 821 00:38:02,300 --> 00:37:50,140 Mark Dantonio is floating dollar bills 822 00:38:06,809 --> 00:38:02,310 in the screen your mighty dollar okay so 823 00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:06,819 I'll say this well Carol was the one 824 00:38:11,370 --> 00:38:09,609 that linked me to this video in the 825 00:38:14,550 --> 00:38:11,380 first place so and we her and I chatted 826 00:38:17,220 --> 00:38:14,560 about this already and you know justjust 827 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:17,230 one of the earlier things he was 828 00:38:22,890 --> 00:38:19,810 discussing is the the susceptibility of 829 00:38:25,170 --> 00:38:22,900 the male populace to this disease and 830 00:38:28,349 --> 00:38:25,180 then that was a red flag bla bla bla bla 831 00:38:29,220 --> 00:38:28,359 but Carol and I were saying well and I 832 00:38:33,950 --> 00:38:29,230 think Carol II think you were the one 833 00:38:39,420 --> 00:38:33,960 that pointed it out that men in China a 834 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:39,430 large majority are heavy smokers and so 835 00:38:45,059 --> 00:38:43,810 they're any sort of virus when it adapts 836 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:45,069 or mutates I you know I'm not a 837 00:38:50,130 --> 00:38:48,490 scientist but it you know it it um it 838 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:50,140 looks for and outlooks but you know it 839 00:38:57,270 --> 00:38:53,290 preys on weakness and so the respiratory 840 00:38:59,370 --> 00:38:57,280 system of men in China maybe that's a 841 00:39:01,140 --> 00:38:59,380 reason you know it doesn't have to be it 842 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:01,150 doesn't have to be a conspiracy I you 843 00:39:02,609 --> 00:39:02,170 know I don't know I'm just throwing that 844 00:39:05,219 --> 00:39:02,619 out there 845 00:39:07,140 --> 00:39:05,229 but what the point is is that there 846 00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:07,150 might be just some natural explanation 847 00:39:12,809 --> 00:39:10,089 as to why the virus adapted to target or 848 00:39:14,489 --> 00:39:12,819 is more effective at men affecting men's 849 00:39:18,569 --> 00:39:14,499 respiratory system over others I don't 850 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:18,579 know about Spain and Italy but go ahead 851 00:39:23,370 --> 00:39:20,890 Carol well I just wanted to toss in to 852 00:39:25,109 --> 00:39:23,380 Alan that you know you're not a doctor 853 00:39:27,930 --> 00:39:25,119 but you could play one on TV but the 854 00:39:31,019 --> 00:39:27,940 other thing is we are perhaps talking 855 00:39:34,529 --> 00:39:31,029 about generational nutritional 856 00:39:35,969 --> 00:39:34,539 deficiencies you know not just prenatal 857 00:39:39,479 --> 00:39:35,979 but how many generations back do you 858 00:39:41,789 --> 00:39:39,489 want to go where it's and I'm certainly 859 00:39:44,009 --> 00:39:41,799 not meaning this as anything politically 860 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:44,019 divisive or that they're not any less 861 00:39:50,039 --> 00:39:47,410 human or deserving of a good life than 862 00:39:53,009 --> 00:39:50,049 we are but but obviously but there there 863 00:39:55,349 --> 00:39:53,019 really might be something in the fact 864 00:39:58,349 --> 00:39:55,359 that what is it what is the term we're 865 00:40:00,479 --> 00:39:58,359 hearing a lot now immunocompromised but 866 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:00,489 even without a specific disease that 867 00:40:06,209 --> 00:40:03,249 their their immunity just is not what 868 00:40:08,819 --> 00:40:06,219 ours living in relatively you know good 869 00:40:11,849 --> 00:40:08,829 position to Western world is and there's 870 00:40:13,769 --> 00:40:11,859 a comorbidity to it yes unspoken about 871 00:40:17,219 --> 00:40:13,779 which is you know another underlying 872 00:40:19,319 --> 00:40:17,229 thing which actually exacerbates Korona 873 00:40:21,539 --> 00:40:19,329 in their bodies now in terms of the 874 00:40:24,150 --> 00:40:21,549 Italian and the Spanish populations 875 00:40:25,979 --> 00:40:24,160 being hard hit it was a no-brainer for 876 00:40:27,779 --> 00:40:25,989 me I know why they were hard yeah I said 877 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:27,789 it right in the very beginning and it 878 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:29,170 turns out it looks like that might be 879 00:40:32,759 --> 00:40:31,210 true but we'll wait for the study 880 00:40:34,049 --> 00:40:32,769 there'll be a sociological study that's 881 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:34,059 going to confirm this in about three 882 00:40:43,170 --> 00:40:38,130 years I'm sure my name ends in a vowel 883 00:40:45,380 --> 00:40:43,180 okay and so my father was Italian and if 884 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:45,390 you've ever gone to an Italian gathering 885 00:40:51,410 --> 00:40:49,210 people you don't know men you don't know 886 00:40:54,089 --> 00:40:51,420 you walk up and get mugged okay 887 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:54,099 Italian culture is very tight-knit and 888 00:40:59,339 --> 00:40:56,890 close it's a touchy feely organ you know 889 00:41:03,329 --> 00:40:59,349 the organist you know organized family 890 00:41:05,670 --> 00:41:03,339 unit and I've gone to Italian gatherings 891 00:41:08,039 --> 00:41:05,680 where my face and shirt were covered 892 00:41:09,779 --> 00:41:08,049 with lipstick from ants you know and I 893 00:41:12,150 --> 00:41:09,789 couldn't wait to get out and wash it off 894 00:41:13,709 --> 00:41:12,160 okay and there's even men that would 895 00:41:15,059 --> 00:41:13,719 give you a kiss on the cheek you know 896 00:41:16,260 --> 00:41:15,069 your uncle give you a kiss on the cheek 897 00:41:18,750 --> 00:41:16,270 or the forehead 898 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:18,760 especially if you're small and when 899 00:41:24,390 --> 00:41:21,490 you're older you get a hug you never 900 00:41:28,020 --> 00:41:24,400 shake hands you always hug okay there's 901 00:41:31,170 --> 00:41:28,030 this one and that means touch here have 902 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:31,180 my virus here have my virus I didn't get 903 00:41:37,530 --> 00:41:33,850 your virus yet the bottom line is that 904 00:41:41,340 --> 00:41:37,540 there is going to be a cultural aspect 905 00:41:43,650 --> 00:41:41,350 to this virus and the other thing that's 906 00:41:46,740 --> 00:41:43,660 important is if we look at the virus 907 00:41:50,250 --> 00:41:46,750 it's actually related to demographics 908 00:41:52,050 --> 00:41:50,260 more than Geographics okay demographic 909 00:41:54,750 --> 00:41:52,060 is more important than where it's 910 00:41:57,150 --> 00:41:54,760 located if you go to Italy you're not 911 00:41:59,370 --> 00:41:57,160 more susceptible to it you know as an 912 00:42:00,890 --> 00:41:59,380 American walk going over to Italy other 913 00:42:04,860 --> 00:42:00,900 than if you're around infected people 914 00:42:08,610 --> 00:42:04,870 then going to Norway okay but the fact 915 00:42:11,490 --> 00:42:08,620 of the matter is you will still run the 916 00:42:13,230 --> 00:42:11,500 risk of catching it but you're you're 917 00:42:15,930 --> 00:42:13,240 not as gregarious as the Italian people 918 00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:15,940 or the Spanish people then you're gonna 919 00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:17,920 be a little bit more conservative anyway 920 00:42:25,350 --> 00:42:21,730 and so there's that there's that piece 921 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:25,360 of it and in the Italian mortality of 922 00:42:31,830 --> 00:42:28,090 this virus 12% of the people that died 923 00:42:35,460 --> 00:42:31,840 only 12% are under sixty seven years old 924 00:42:37,380 --> 00:42:35,470 all the rest are older there's an older 925 00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:37,390 Italian population I know all of them 926 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:39,730 I don't every single one of them they're 927 00:42:45,690 --> 00:42:43,930 all grandpa and grandma okay and they're 928 00:42:47,340 --> 00:42:45,700 the kind of the people that say you're 929 00:42:49,980 --> 00:42:47,350 gonna be sick you'll get over here I 930 00:42:51,690 --> 00:42:49,990 take care of you I don't know it doesn't 931 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:51,700 matter I don't give a no don't worry 932 00:42:56,370 --> 00:42:54,370 about me I take kill you cuz that's how 933 00:42:57,780 --> 00:42:56,380 they are yeah and you're not gonna be 934 00:43:00,200 --> 00:42:57,790 able to stop him or you'll insult them 935 00:43:03,420 --> 00:43:00,210 and if you insult them it's worse I 936 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:03,430 might get trust me I've had been get 937 00:43:07,500 --> 00:43:04,930 that scuff aquila getting kicked in the 938 00:43:09,810 --> 00:43:07,510 back of it but so many times by you know 939 00:43:11,730 --> 00:43:09,820 ons and uncles that I got mad for just 940 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:11,740 because I rejected their kisses and one 941 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:13,090 of them had a wart on her face I didn't 942 00:43:18,210 --> 00:43:16,090 like that because oh it was terrible 943 00:43:19,890 --> 00:43:18,220 but I had to let her do it difficult 944 00:43:24,300 --> 00:43:19,900 those cheek kisses where it's like kind 945 00:43:25,700 --> 00:43:24,310 of drool you know no no the ones I had 946 00:43:27,630 --> 00:43:25,710 those growing up 947 00:43:29,430 --> 00:43:27,640 and the ones with the end it's the same 948 00:43:29,850 --> 00:43:29,440 person kiss you and it's like I feel the 949 00:43:33,630 --> 00:43:29,860 hairs 950 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:33,640 love man it's it's I mean let me know 951 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:36,010 what that's so beautiful though it is as 952 00:43:39,180 --> 00:43:38,050 a kid you know you don't want to feel 953 00:43:41,550 --> 00:43:39,190 that there's a kid you want to run away 954 00:43:45,750 --> 00:43:41,560 from it as an adult you wish for it 955 00:43:48,570 --> 00:43:45,760 again the Italian culture is very tight 956 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:48,580 and close yeah and that's why this is 957 00:43:52,890 --> 00:43:50,410 happening to them the way it is I can 958 00:43:54,930 --> 00:43:52,900 guarantee you that this is probably that 959 00:43:59,550 --> 00:43:54,940 one of the biggest factors is their 960 00:44:03,650 --> 00:43:59,560 culture yeah before we take to the break 961 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:03,660 and we'll transition hard into ufology I 962 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:07,930 will say this that that years ago when I 963 00:44:13,290 --> 00:44:10,690 first was was hearing about and 964 00:44:16,620 --> 00:44:13,300 listening to David Wilcock I found him 965 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:16,630 utterly hypnotizing and fascinating but 966 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:21,370 when he when he came on the scene he was 967 00:44:27,390 --> 00:44:24,850 talking about metaphysics and so we're 968 00:44:29,250 --> 00:44:27,400 metaphysics you can speculate about so 969 00:44:32,420 --> 00:44:29,260 much and it doesn't it doesn't matter 970 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:32,430 you can pull you know history mythology 971 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:35,410 religion bring it all together wrap it 972 00:44:39,330 --> 00:44:38,170 up you know and and talk about and 973 00:44:42,330 --> 00:44:39,340 that's fine and you can speculate all 974 00:44:44,340 --> 00:44:42,340 day as you want so I think for over four 975 00:44:46,710 --> 00:44:44,350 years he just could say whatever he 976 00:44:48,750 --> 00:44:46,720 wanted because there was no negative 977 00:44:52,050 --> 00:44:48,760 side effect you know it was all actually 978 00:44:54,780 --> 00:44:52,060 very positive which is I think a 979 00:44:57,750 --> 00:44:54,790 different change of tone as well he was 980 00:45:00,210 --> 00:44:57,760 had a very uplifting message and I and I 981 00:45:01,710 --> 00:45:00,220 really liked it you know it's like when 982 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:01,720 someone is religious I may not believe 983 00:45:04,950 --> 00:45:03,370 in the religion but if the if the 984 00:45:05,460 --> 00:45:04,960 message is positive and uplifting that's 985 00:45:08,100 --> 00:45:05,470 awesome 986 00:45:10,740 --> 00:45:08,110 you know great and somewhere along the 987 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:10,750 lines that tone has changed and I think 988 00:45:15,930 --> 00:45:13,450 when I saw this video it just really hit 989 00:45:18,870 --> 00:45:15,940 me like wow you know I love the old 990 00:45:20,790 --> 00:45:18,880 David Wilcock okay because that that's 991 00:45:22,620 --> 00:45:20,800 all very important stuff yeah you know 992 00:45:24,300 --> 00:45:22,630 human the visceral human experience mean 993 00:45:26,790 --> 00:45:24,310 that's very important to understand who 994 00:45:28,350 --> 00:45:26,800 we are look inside who's looking out 995 00:45:29,910 --> 00:45:28,360 from behind these eyes inside his head I 996 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:29,920 mean there's all kinds of things yeah 997 00:45:36,090 --> 00:45:31,930 along in that arena 998 00:45:38,450 --> 00:45:36,100 exactly oh yeah 999 00:45:42,559 --> 00:45:38,460 spirituality in general 1000 00:45:43,940 --> 00:45:42,569 but here on this program and Ryan and I 1001 00:45:47,510 --> 00:45:43,950 were talking about this a little bit but 1002 00:45:49,970 --> 00:45:47,520 recently it's it's a slippery slope 1003 00:45:52,670 --> 00:45:49,980 because this is an open platform and and 1004 00:45:55,010 --> 00:45:52,680 I do that very speculative 1005 00:45:57,740 --> 00:45:55,020 you know people come on here and talk 1006 00:46:01,700 --> 00:45:57,750 about things that might be in that sort 1007 00:46:05,540 --> 00:46:01,710 of outrageous range but eventually there 1008 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:05,550 is a line that you have to draw and I 1009 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:08,010 started paranormal now on irn years ago 1010 00:46:13,460 --> 00:46:09,930 about three and a half years ago 1011 00:46:16,370 --> 00:46:13,470 something like that Carole remembers the 1012 00:46:20,990 --> 00:46:16,380 good old days are better these are these 1013 00:46:24,319 --> 00:46:21,000 are these are great days and so it's 1014 00:46:25,609 --> 00:46:24,329 since then I had never felt like 1015 00:46:28,069 --> 00:46:25,619 somebody crossed that line until 1016 00:46:30,530 --> 00:46:28,079 recently and I won't say who that that 1017 00:46:33,290 --> 00:46:30,540 guests name was but Carole probably 1018 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:33,300 remembers it was related to will just 1019 00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:34,890 say Nazis and we'll leave it at that and 1020 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:37,440 I was it was really disturbing to me it 1021 00:46:42,620 --> 00:46:40,770 was the first time ever I just had to 1022 00:46:45,319 --> 00:46:42,630 comment on it and then I had like a 1023 00:46:47,210 --> 00:46:45,329 whole diatribe the following week cuz it 1024 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:47,220 was like it was just eating at me what 1025 00:46:52,130 --> 00:46:49,170 he said and I and I felt bad that I 1026 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:52,140 didn't didn't challenge him better on 1027 00:46:57,589 --> 00:46:54,210 the air when he was when he was there so 1028 00:46:59,089 --> 00:46:57,599 on occasion you know you just have to 1029 00:47:00,559 --> 00:46:59,099 call people out you know you know even 1030 00:47:02,420 --> 00:47:00,569 if you like someone you just gotta say 1031 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:02,430 that's not right you know across the 1032 00:47:08,990 --> 00:47:06,210 line and you you did a great course 1033 00:47:10,370 --> 00:47:09,000 correction on the next show I think you 1034 00:47:12,140 --> 00:47:10,380 know originally when he put this forth 1035 00:47:14,359 --> 00:47:12,150 you were sort of like thrown as we all 1036 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:14,369 work but you really shallow say 1037 00:47:18,710 --> 00:47:16,890 acquitted yourself admirably so thank 1038 00:47:20,690 --> 00:47:18,720 you thank you well well I'm gonna quit 1039 00:47:22,670 --> 00:47:20,700 myself now for this break and then we 1040 00:47:25,490 --> 00:47:22,680 will come back on the other side with a 1041 00:47:27,170 --> 00:47:25,500 positive message I don't know what do 1042 00:47:28,549 --> 00:47:27,180 you guys got let's let's let's lift 1043 00:47:30,809 --> 00:47:28,559 let's lighten the spirits up a little 1044 00:47:33,569 --> 00:47:30,819 bit and inspire soon 1045 00:47:37,229 --> 00:47:33,579 it's tough man it's it's it's tough 1046 00:47:39,809 --> 00:47:37,239 being inside a box you know though we do 1047 00:47:43,859 --> 00:47:39,819 have Netflix so tribe inside a dome in 1048 00:47:46,409 --> 00:47:43,869 the winter huh yeah yeah there's a lot 1049 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:46,419 to be grateful for so astronomy right 1050 00:47:53,789 --> 00:47:51,130 yeah oh yeah have phenomenal things are 1051 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:53,799 doing - so we got a good crew got here 1052 00:47:55,890 --> 00:47:54,130 man 1053 00:47:57,959 --> 00:47:55,900 yeah thank you yeah I really appreciate 1054 00:47:59,729 --> 00:47:57,969 everyone joining me tonight so we'll be 1055 00:48:01,349 --> 00:47:59,739 back on the other side with plenty more 1056 00:48:11,609 --> 00:48:01,359 to talk about Allenby Smith or 1057 00:48:13,380 --> 00:48:11,619 paranormal now we'll be right back your 1058 00:48:15,689 --> 00:48:13,390 official contact for the best 1059 00:48:19,700 --> 00:48:15,699 alternative talk on that planet 1060 00:48:57,130 --> 00:48:35,760 [Music] 1061 00:48:58,720 --> 00:48:57,140 welcome back to paranormal now this is 1062 00:49:01,060 --> 00:48:58,730 Alan B Smith your host tonight 1063 00:49:04,660 --> 00:49:01,070 and I am with Jason McClellan Ryan 1064 00:49:06,010 --> 00:49:04,670 Sprague Carol Karl and Mark Dantonio and 1065 00:49:08,470 --> 00:49:06,020 this has been a fun night so if you're 1066 00:49:10,450 --> 00:49:08,480 just joining in we've been covering 1067 00:49:11,890 --> 00:49:10,460 mostly the corona virus a little bit of 1068 00:49:14,530 --> 00:49:11,900 conspiracy theories and now we will be 1069 00:49:17,950 --> 00:49:14,540 transitioning into ufology thank God 1070 00:49:20,650 --> 00:49:17,960 okay so I brought this up to you all 1071 00:49:24,430 --> 00:49:20,660 earlier in the email and I'm really 1072 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:24,440 curious what each of you think not just 1073 00:49:30,220 --> 00:49:26,930 about skinwalker ranch but but but 1074 00:49:31,420 --> 00:49:30,230 Bigelow Bob Bigelow himself because 1075 00:49:33,220 --> 00:49:31,430 there is a new series coming out on 1076 00:49:35,020 --> 00:49:33,230 history so I think this would be a good 1077 00:49:37,540 --> 00:49:35,030 time to kind of prime our minds for that 1078 00:49:40,540 --> 00:49:37,550 before we digest that show however it's 1079 00:49:43,240 --> 00:49:40,550 going to be so Carol what's it what's 1080 00:49:44,830 --> 00:49:43,250 your take on skinwalker well first of 1081 00:49:47,350 --> 00:49:44,840 all you know a long time back it's like 1082 00:49:51,940 --> 00:49:47,360 oh not the Bigelow tea guy oh the 1083 00:49:53,470 --> 00:49:51,950 aerospace guy and he did um he did an 1084 00:49:54,970 --> 00:49:53,480 interview I'm gonna get this wrong cuz I 1085 00:49:58,750 --> 00:49:54,980 didn't take the time to look it up I 1086 00:50:00,490 --> 00:49:58,760 should have with a I have want to say 1087 00:50:03,130 --> 00:50:00,500 yeah I'm not even gonna go for her name 1088 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:03,140 it was some mainstream media and this 1089 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:04,610 goes back maybe three or four years 1090 00:50:09,070 --> 00:50:07,610 maybe one of you guys remembers where he 1091 00:50:12,340 --> 00:50:09,080 was up close and personal with this 1092 00:50:15,220 --> 00:50:12,350 anchorwoman and talked about her say 1093 00:50:17,830 --> 00:50:15,230 again was it 60 minutes yes yes there we 1094 00:50:19,450 --> 00:50:17,840 go there we go 60 minutes and I still 1095 00:50:28,690 --> 00:50:19,460 can't think of the broadcaster's name 1096 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:28,700 but ah there we go and he's oh but it 1097 00:50:33,940 --> 00:50:31,370 wasn't 60 minutes or 60 minutes it was 1098 00:50:35,620 --> 00:50:33,950 okay but irrelevant in I hate to say 1099 00:50:40,300 --> 00:50:35,630 this who cares about the broadcaster 1100 00:50:43,150 --> 00:50:40,310 well he sort of spilled in terms of his 1101 00:50:44,500 --> 00:50:43,160 interest in UFOs this was sort of first 1102 00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:44,510 blush this was kind of the first 1103 00:50:49,210 --> 00:50:46,250 publicity that unless you really dug 1104 00:50:51,610 --> 00:50:49,220 that the general public knew about his 1105 00:50:53,650 --> 00:50:51,620 interest even though it was rumored this 1106 00:50:56,500 --> 00:50:53,660 was sort of a substantiation even 1107 00:50:59,470 --> 00:50:56,510 including the fact that when he was a 1108 00:51:01,420 --> 00:50:59,480 child again I'm weak on this his either 1109 00:51:03,610 --> 00:51:01,430 his his parents or his grandparents had 1110 00:51:05,590 --> 00:51:03,620 actually seen in the desert something 1111 00:51:08,770 --> 00:51:05,600 fly over their car that they could not 1112 00:51:11,230 --> 00:51:08,780 explain and it was sort of like oh my 1113 00:51:12,730 --> 00:51:11,240 so here we go so we knew Bigelow those 1114 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:12,740 of us who were into the field a little 1115 00:51:18,490 --> 00:51:16,370 bit knew him as being behind the 1116 00:51:21,510 --> 00:51:18,500 National Institute for discovery science 1117 00:51:24,490 --> 00:51:21,520 etc and then skinwalker 1118 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:24,500 besides the aerospace stuff so I don't 1119 00:51:28,300 --> 00:51:26,690 know it all it tracks and yet is it 1120 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:28,310 wrong to just make an assumption that 1121 00:51:36,550 --> 00:51:34,010 this is valid so I don't take it anybody 1122 00:51:38,590 --> 00:51:36,560 I'm looking at heads nodding circular 1123 00:51:41,770 --> 00:51:38,600 and I am I'm passing the torch here in 1124 00:51:43,630 --> 00:51:41,780 terms of what do we think about what he 1125 00:51:45,610 --> 00:51:43,640 now says and about of course good old 1126 00:51:50,230 --> 00:51:45,620 George naps involvement in all this and 1127 00:51:52,870 --> 00:51:50,240 Jeremy Corbyn good well I oh I'm sorry 1128 00:51:55,900 --> 00:51:52,880 um I'll jump in and just say yeah I mean 1129 00:51:58,780 --> 00:51:55,910 we we all have our own burning thoughts 1130 00:52:00,220 --> 00:51:58,790 on all of it but Jason and I are good 1131 00:52:01,990 --> 00:52:00,230 friends with Jeremy Corbyn of the 1132 00:52:04,110 --> 00:52:02,000 filmmaker who made the run for the 1133 00:52:07,240 --> 00:52:04,120 skinwalker documentary with George Knapp 1134 00:52:11,140 --> 00:52:07,250 so you know we might have a little bias 1135 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:11,150 but um at the end of the day it's 1136 00:52:16,450 --> 00:52:13,970 fascinating to see the evolution of 1137 00:52:19,060 --> 00:52:16,460 skinwalker ranch and those who studied 1138 00:52:21,610 --> 00:52:19,070 it and you know everything that Bob 1139 00:52:24,330 --> 00:52:21,620 Bigelow may have investigated or 1140 00:52:27,580 --> 00:52:24,340 research with his time there is 1141 00:52:30,490 --> 00:52:27,590 classified in terms of his involvement 1142 00:52:32,650 --> 00:52:30,500 in his research I know that he 1143 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:32,660 personally spoke to the new owner of the 1144 00:52:39,070 --> 00:52:36,770 ranch and they they talked and he walked 1145 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:39,080 him through the ranch but everything 1146 00:52:44,530 --> 00:52:41,570 every document or file or experiment 1147 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:44,540 Bigelow did he's his and it was not 1148 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:46,490 shared with the new owner so we are 1149 00:52:50,890 --> 00:52:47,810 literally starting from scratch with 1150 00:52:53,530 --> 00:52:50,900 this new owner this new television show 1151 00:52:56,740 --> 00:52:53,540 in this new era of what could be going 1152 00:52:58,900 --> 00:52:56,750 on at skinwalker ranch so I'm excited to 1153 00:53:01,150 --> 00:52:58,910 be completely honest I I think it's 1154 00:53:04,390 --> 00:53:01,160 interesting how Bob Bigelow has carved 1155 00:53:07,990 --> 00:53:04,400 his way into both the paranormal and the 1156 00:53:11,310 --> 00:53:08,000 UFO worlds and how passionate he is in 1157 00:53:13,900 --> 00:53:11,320 how his conviction is they're saying 1158 00:53:15,730 --> 00:53:13,910 they're already here we don't have to 1159 00:53:17,770 --> 00:53:15,740 look in space they're already here yeah 1160 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:17,780 that's a big statement for someone of 1161 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:20,570 his stature and reputation just say so 1162 00:53:25,430 --> 00:53:21,930 he must have 1163 00:53:29,089 --> 00:53:25,440 thing some sort of evidence that made 1164 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:29,099 him truly believe that they are here so 1165 00:53:32,950 --> 00:53:31,050 yeah I kind of feel like that that is 1166 00:53:36,410 --> 00:53:32,960 the message that he repeats a lot 1167 00:53:38,870 --> 00:53:36,420 confidently no on mainstream media he's 1168 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:38,880 like we're here you know no question 1169 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:40,890 question like okay why are we waiting to 1170 00:53:43,430 --> 00:53:41,490 talk about 1171 00:53:45,079 --> 00:53:43,440 yeah go ahead by Bigelow I love Bob 1172 00:53:48,410 --> 00:53:45,089 piccolo I've always loved Bob piccolo 1173 00:53:49,940 --> 00:53:48,420 being a space geek you know I certainly 1174 00:53:51,620 --> 00:53:49,950 have followed everything he's done with 1175 00:53:53,540 --> 00:53:51,630 Bigelow Aerospace he's a leader in the 1176 00:53:56,510 --> 00:53:53,550 private space industry and unfortunately 1177 00:53:59,660 --> 00:53:56,520 that may be going away for a while we'll 1178 00:54:01,549 --> 00:53:59,670 see but you know he's always been vocal 1179 00:54:04,730 --> 00:54:01,559 always been vocal about his interest in 1180 00:54:06,799 --> 00:54:04,740 the paranormal and he's you know my 1181 00:54:09,410 --> 00:54:06,809 favorite kind of billionaire the kind 1182 00:54:11,809 --> 00:54:09,420 who will instead of spending them 1183 00:54:13,130 --> 00:54:11,819 spending their money on big houses and 1184 00:54:14,660 --> 00:54:13,140 yachts he spends his money on 1185 00:54:17,390 --> 00:54:14,670 investigating the paranormal 1186 00:54:19,309 --> 00:54:17,400 yeah and he's probably you know the 1187 00:54:21,500 --> 00:54:19,319 private the private citizen who spent 1188 00:54:23,930 --> 00:54:21,510 the most money investigating the 1189 00:54:26,839 --> 00:54:23,940 paranormal you know primarily 1190 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:26,849 responsible for everything we've heard 1191 00:54:31,940 --> 00:54:29,130 recently with government involvement in 1192 00:54:35,630 --> 00:54:31,950 skinwalker ranch and in recent UFO 1193 00:54:39,020 --> 00:54:35,640 studies with the whole a tip and us app 1194 00:54:41,599 --> 00:54:39,030 all those programs you know Bigelow was 1195 00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:41,609 closely tied to and partially 1196 00:54:47,660 --> 00:54:44,730 responsible for and George Knapp is a 1197 00:54:50,510 --> 00:54:47,670 good friend and you know from the moment 1198 00:54:52,549 --> 00:54:50,520 I first read his book about skinwalker I 1199 00:54:54,289 --> 00:54:52,559 was hooked with skinwalker that was the 1200 00:54:57,079 --> 00:54:54,299 place I wanted to go and do an 1201 00:54:59,240 --> 00:54:57,089 investigation because it had a little 1202 00:55:01,400 --> 00:54:59,250 bit of everything you know all the 1203 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:01,410 paranormal things just like plop there 1204 00:55:06,710 --> 00:55:05,010 let's go find them all so I love George 1205 00:55:09,170 --> 00:55:06,720 and I thought that book was was really 1206 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:09,180 well done with calm Kelleher they did a 1207 00:55:13,430 --> 00:55:11,490 really good write-up but at the same 1208 00:55:15,319 --> 00:55:13,440 time what we know from that 1209 00:55:19,030 --> 00:55:15,329 investigation time period is very 1210 00:55:22,190 --> 00:55:19,040 limited so now to have this history show 1211 00:55:23,809 --> 00:55:22,200 secret skinwalker ranch it's exciting I 1212 00:55:26,450 --> 00:55:23,819 think we're gonna see more what we 1213 00:55:29,089 --> 00:55:26,460 actually see I don't know but I'm 1214 00:55:31,339 --> 00:55:29,099 certainly excited to get probably what's 1215 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:31,349 going to be my only inside look it's 1216 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:32,690 going to log a ranch 1217 00:55:39,069 --> 00:55:35,690 yeah my I don't know if it's a concern 1218 00:55:43,240 --> 00:55:39,079 maybe it's fine but for those who watch 1219 00:55:47,589 --> 00:55:43,250 curse of Oak Island like we do there's a 1220 00:55:49,059 --> 00:55:47,599 lot of filler so I suspect it's going to 1221 00:55:52,089 --> 00:55:49,069 be a show like that doesn't mean it's 1222 00:55:54,940 --> 00:55:52,099 gonna be a bad show but I just I wonder 1223 00:55:56,980 --> 00:55:54,950 and I hope you know will there will 1224 00:56:00,010 --> 00:55:56,990 there actually be good investigation 1225 00:56:02,859 --> 00:56:00,020 number one and there's a really anything 1226 00:56:05,500 --> 00:56:02,869 that that you can actually show for it 1227 00:56:08,700 --> 00:56:05,510 because it's been investigated you know 1228 00:56:12,549 --> 00:56:08,710 especially with Bigelow for four decades 1229 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:12,559 and as fascinating as it is I mean it's 1230 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:14,450 just you can't catch anything on camera 1231 00:56:18,630 --> 00:56:16,970 it seems like that's definitive right 1232 00:56:22,660 --> 00:56:18,640 for a place that has all this activity 1233 00:56:25,539 --> 00:56:22,670 it's um it's it's an enigma and you know 1234 00:56:27,549 --> 00:56:25,549 it's one of those cases for me where I 1235 00:56:31,390 --> 00:56:27,559 wonder how much of it is fed by our 1236 00:56:33,940 --> 00:56:31,400 imagination and how much is is there a 1237 00:56:35,849 --> 00:56:33,950 legitimate phenomenon going on there and 1238 00:56:44,950 --> 00:56:35,859 let mark to have any thoughts on that 1239 00:56:47,769 --> 00:56:44,960 yep do you want to share them a comic 1240 00:56:52,930 --> 00:56:47,779 pause there but I actually respect 1241 00:56:55,779 --> 00:56:52,940 Robert Bigelow because I think the 1242 00:56:59,079 --> 00:56:55,789 Bigelow Aerospace side with the inflated 1243 00:57:03,190 --> 00:56:59,089 tats as I call them inflatable habitats 1244 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:03,200 okay I think that is actually a 1245 00:57:11,250 --> 00:57:09,170 tremendous offering to the pudding bases 1246 00:57:13,569 --> 00:57:11,260 on the moon in a way that we can afford 1247 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:13,579 adding on to the space station in a way 1248 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:15,410 that we can afford going to Mars in a 1249 00:57:19,690 --> 00:57:18,170 way we can afford because your habitat 1250 00:57:21,970 --> 00:57:19,700 doesn't have to be a rocket body that 1251 00:57:24,549 --> 00:57:21,980 you've been hauling out there with you 1252 00:57:26,170 --> 00:57:24,559 it can be this little folded up thing so 1253 00:57:29,829 --> 00:57:26,180 I have a feeling that you know so I like 1254 00:57:32,230 --> 00:57:29,839 that you know I was around for when when 1255 00:57:35,799 --> 00:57:32,240 Bigelow had invested in the whole 1256 00:57:37,510 --> 00:57:35,809 tobacco would move on and you know that 1257 00:57:43,299 --> 00:57:37,520 wasn't a pretty time for MUFON I've been 1258 00:57:46,150 --> 00:57:43,309 in MUFON for nine not actually I've been 1259 00:57:51,430 --> 00:57:46,160 I was I started to move on in 1971 I was 1260 00:57:52,390 --> 00:57:51,440 eleven years old and I guess I've seen 1261 00:57:54,460 --> 00:57:52,400 it go up and down 1262 00:57:59,920 --> 00:57:54,470 I've seen it almost dissolve I've seen 1263 00:58:01,720 --> 00:57:59,930 it rise to tremendous heights but I just 1264 00:58:03,130 --> 00:58:01,730 want to do my photo and video analysis 1265 00:58:06,970 --> 00:58:03,140 you know and I want to make sure that 1266 00:58:09,490 --> 00:58:06,980 people just get a an opinion that's 1267 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:09,500 based on science you know I actually 1268 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:11,330 have had experiences that I can't 1269 00:58:17,620 --> 00:58:14,570 explain in fact you know I I went to 1270 00:58:19,300 --> 00:58:17,630 Norway in August and I actually did a 1271 00:58:23,140 --> 00:58:19,310 what we call the New Scientist towards 1272 00:58:27,270 --> 00:58:23,150 something where I'm one end okay we had 1273 00:58:32,020 --> 00:58:27,280 cattle Olson who's doing her her 1274 00:58:34,150 --> 00:58:32,030 metaphysical hybrid talk and me doing an 1275 00:58:37,930 --> 00:58:34,160 astronomical talk and somehow the two 1276 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:37,940 blend together and now she's writing a 1277 00:58:43,570 --> 00:58:41,570 book on cosmology and she can't solve an 1278 00:58:46,690 --> 00:58:43,580 equation she can't even write one but 1279 00:58:47,860 --> 00:58:46,700 the the philosophical concepts that she 1280 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:47,870 came behind there's a I'm going 1281 00:58:52,690 --> 00:58:49,370 someplace with this trust me I still on 1282 00:58:55,270 --> 00:58:52,700 Bigelow I promise the philosophical 1283 00:58:57,220 --> 00:58:55,280 concepts that she has are things that we 1284 00:58:59,950 --> 00:58:57,230 have to pay attention to because I think 1285 00:59:02,770 --> 00:58:59,960 there's merit in the same way Robert 1286 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:02,780 Bigelow okay for all the things that 1287 00:59:05,950 --> 00:59:04,250 people say about him like oh he just 1288 00:59:08,770 --> 00:59:05,960 wants to own all the day that's it what 1289 00:59:10,990 --> 00:59:08,780 fine if we're gonna get answers I don't 1290 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:11,000 care who owns the data as long as we can 1291 00:59:18,670 --> 00:59:14,810 see the answers you know yeah okay be 1292 00:59:21,910 --> 00:59:18,680 nice if somebody could could share the 1293 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:21,920 data okay and and all that but and I'm 1294 00:59:26,860 --> 00:59:25,130 okay with that and like I said in in 1295 00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:26,870 Jason said oh he's like his favorite 1296 00:59:32,890 --> 00:59:30,050 billionaire I think it's kind of a cool 1297 00:59:34,510 --> 00:59:32,900 way to put it you know you know I and I 1298 00:59:38,950 --> 00:59:34,520 think that that's something that makes a 1299 00:59:43,630 --> 00:59:38,960 lot of sense to me so I'm I'm ok with 1300 00:59:45,730 --> 00:59:43,640 Robert Bigelow and the fact that he says 1301 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:45,740 they're already here well I know they 1302 00:59:49,210 --> 00:59:48,050 are too but I'm an astronomer shouldn't 1303 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:49,220 I not talk like that 1304 00:59:54,750 --> 00:59:51,050 won't that hurt me and my academic 1305 00:59:58,480 --> 00:59:54,760 career I mean doing well yes maybe 1306 01:00:00,050 --> 00:59:58,490 because I was also on a US nuclear 1307 01:00:02,690 --> 01:00:00,060 submarine as a guest 1308 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:02,700 okay and I saw something I couldn't 1309 01:00:07,850 --> 01:00:05,370 understand on the sub and neither could 1310 01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:07,860 the sonar guy and it was a very 1311 01:00:12,530 --> 01:00:09,570 fast-moving object that moves several 1312 01:00:14,810 --> 01:00:12,540 hundred knots underwater it was there 1313 01:00:16,070 --> 01:00:14,820 and it was gone and the kid had no idea 1314 01:00:18,830 --> 01:00:16,080 how to classify it he had his hands up 1315 01:00:22,190 --> 01:00:18,840 what do I do with this and the XO said 1316 01:00:24,410 --> 01:00:22,200 log it and dog it which means log it and 1317 01:00:25,580 --> 01:00:24,420 then get rid of it and I had the 1318 01:00:28,130 --> 01:00:25,590 opportunity to work for the Joint Chiefs 1319 01:00:29,450 --> 01:00:28,140 four years later and I was sitting in 1320 01:00:33,140 --> 01:00:29,460 the home of one of the Chiefs 1321 01:00:36,110 --> 01:00:33,150 and in my head I was thinking oh ask him 1322 01:00:37,700 --> 01:00:36,120 the question about the fast movers okay 1323 01:00:39,650 --> 01:00:37,710 and then I started to think about asking 1324 01:00:41,330 --> 01:00:39,660 him and then I thought no no don't ask 1325 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:41,340 him but my brain had already started the 1326 01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:44,250 words and lt came I'm sitting on his 1327 01:00:48,380 --> 01:00:46,050 couch no no don't say what about the 1328 01:00:50,540 --> 01:00:48,390 fast mirror program oh did I actually 1329 01:00:52,550 --> 01:00:50,550 say that and he looked at me and he 1330 01:00:54,380 --> 01:00:52,560 could have said get out of my house or 1331 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:54,390 he could have said I have no idea what 1332 01:00:58,130 --> 01:00:56,130 you're talking about but he said I can't 1333 01:01:03,670 --> 01:00:58,140 talk about that program mark I'm sorry 1334 01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:03,680 okay well tell you that tells you that 1335 01:01:08,750 --> 01:01:06,210 Joint Chiefs know they're here yeah 1336 01:01:10,700 --> 01:01:08,760 hey Bigelow says they're here I 1337 01:01:13,190 --> 01:01:10,710 witnessed something I can't explain 1338 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:13,200 mm-hmm no one on that submarine at the 1339 01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:14,850 moment at that time could and this was 1340 01:01:19,850 --> 01:01:17,690 decades ago by the way decades ago oh 1341 01:01:22,490 --> 01:01:19,860 this is crazy 1342 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:22,500 well I think we have all probably had an 1343 01:01:27,260 --> 01:01:24,690 experience similar to that and there's 1344 01:01:31,130 --> 01:01:27,270 just something about that like when 1345 01:01:35,510 --> 01:01:31,140 someone in your life or someone's in 1346 01:01:38,630 --> 01:01:35,520 your life say things like that to you or 1347 01:01:40,070 --> 01:01:38,640 nod don't answer you directly but they 1348 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:40,080 have a little twinkle in their eye when 1349 01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:42,810 they respond and you just can feel it in 1350 01:01:48,170 --> 01:01:44,850 your gut you know like there's something 1351 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:48,180 going on here yeah that makes that can 1352 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:51,330 help make us believers yeah but that's 1353 01:01:56,030 --> 01:01:53,370 just us it doesn't help the other people 1354 01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:56,040 who haven't had that experience well you 1355 01:01:59,960 --> 01:01:57,690 know think about I don't think about how 1356 01:02:02,120 --> 01:01:59,970 the media treats the people who say they 1357 01:02:04,220 --> 01:02:02,130 have experiences right mm-hmm if I go to 1358 01:02:05,810 --> 01:02:04,230 the media and say I saw this thing on a 1359 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:05,820 submarine right well you know what 1360 01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:07,170 they're gonna see here's they're gonna 1361 01:02:19,550 --> 01:02:14,570 see also this thing on a submarine 1362 01:02:22,850 --> 01:02:19,560 yeah and it was round inch at 100 miles 1363 01:02:25,670 --> 01:02:22,860 an hour underwater so they see a 1364 01:02:27,650 --> 01:02:25,680 stereotype absurdity absolutely when 1365 01:02:29,780 --> 01:02:27,660 they're talking to you or whomever it 1366 01:02:32,990 --> 01:02:29,790 doesn't matter that's correct 1367 01:02:35,570 --> 01:02:33,000 and so with with the advent of actual 1368 01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:35,580 science hmm okay that's brought to bear 1369 01:02:39,070 --> 01:02:37,650 on the equation of whether they're here 1370 01:02:42,290 --> 01:02:39,080 and proving that they're here 1371 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:42,300 the media cannot argue with science 1372 01:02:46,730 --> 01:02:44,370 because let's be honest they're not 1373 01:02:48,590 --> 01:02:46,740 scientists yeah okay 1374 01:02:49,910 --> 01:02:48,600 they can't argue with it so if someone 1375 01:02:51,380 --> 01:02:49,920 says the tiered wall it's based on the 1376 01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:51,390 science see the science you okay here's 1377 01:02:55,370 --> 01:02:52,650 here's the study we did in your bubble 1378 01:02:58,040 --> 01:02:55,380 up the media respects studies the media 1379 01:02:59,480 --> 01:02:58,050 respects data yeah because they can't 1380 01:03:01,090 --> 01:02:59,490 counter it because they're they feel 1381 01:03:03,020 --> 01:03:01,100 like they'd be foolish to try and 1382 01:03:06,530 --> 01:03:03,030 encounter man something they have no 1383 01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:06,540 knowledge of I was watching CNN I guess 1384 01:03:09,980 --> 01:03:07,290 almost two years now 1385 01:03:12,950 --> 01:03:09,990 ago when they were reviewing the tic-tac 1386 01:03:17,030 --> 01:03:12,960 UFO so I guess I must have been like 1387 01:03:20,690 --> 01:03:17,040 early 2018 and Neil deGrasse Tyson was 1388 01:03:23,180 --> 01:03:20,700 on there as their science guy and the 1389 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:23,190 the hosts were like this is crazy what 1390 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:25,410 what is this thing and and he was like 1391 01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:29,370 well he just I don't know and they're 1392 01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:32,370 like yeah but he's like it's a UFO I 1393 01:03:37,940 --> 01:03:35,130 don't know that's all it is and it just 1394 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:37,950 frustrated me too all ends because he 1395 01:03:42,890 --> 01:03:40,370 wouldn't even take the extra 1396 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:42,900 intellectual honest level of honesty and 1397 01:03:48,850 --> 01:03:46,530 and and say okay I don't know what it is 1398 01:03:51,980 --> 01:03:48,860 but here's what's interesting about it 1399 01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:51,990 here's some lines of Investigation we 1400 01:03:55,580 --> 01:03:53,970 can go down based on what we see it 1401 01:03:58,820 --> 01:03:55,590 wasn't even that like it he wouldn't 1402 01:04:00,020 --> 01:03:58,830 even touch it and and that that's what 1403 01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:00,030 hurt the most is that it was just 1404 01:04:05,810 --> 01:04:03,810 completely ignoring and playing down 1405 01:04:07,670 --> 01:04:05,820 this thing that I thought is whether 1406 01:04:09,650 --> 01:04:07,680 it's a UFO from exit from another planet 1407 01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:09,660 or whether it's but it doesn't matter 1408 01:04:14,420 --> 01:04:12,690 it's it's fascinating and there's plenty 1409 01:04:16,700 --> 01:04:14,430 to to be looked at and yet he just 1410 01:04:19,070 --> 01:04:16,710 wouldn't do it that's what got me upset 1411 01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:19,080 the most I sort of appreciate that 1412 01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:21,450 approach more than the typical approach 1413 01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:23,610 that somebody like you know he typically 1414 01:04:27,089 --> 01:04:25,250 does where Bill Nye the Science Guy 1415 01:04:29,849 --> 01:04:27,099 where they all 1416 01:04:32,579 --> 01:04:29,859 a definitive explanation saying that's 1417 01:04:33,719 --> 01:04:32,589 it done you know I mean they have no 1418 01:04:35,130 --> 01:04:33,729 idea what they're talking about 1419 01:04:36,930 --> 01:04:35,140 Touche you are you are correct 1420 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:36,940 absolutely I would much run out to have 1421 01:04:42,059 --> 01:04:38,650 someone say it is UFO I don't know what 1422 01:04:44,759 --> 01:04:42,069 it is but it's like I just feel like 1423 01:04:47,309 --> 01:04:44,769 we're so close to having that really 1424 01:04:48,539 --> 01:04:47,319 constructive conversation in the media 1425 01:04:51,809 --> 01:04:48,549 and I thought this is a really good 1426 01:04:53,460 --> 01:04:51,819 opportunity for for neil degrasse tyson 1427 01:04:56,819 --> 01:04:53,470 to walk over that line a little bit 1428 01:04:57,089 --> 01:04:56,829 because Michio Kaku has no problem doing 1429 01:05:00,329 --> 01:04:57,099 that 1430 01:05:02,579 --> 01:05:00,339 he doesn't yeah you know he talks about 1431 01:05:06,269 --> 01:05:02,589 you know you know string theory is where 1432 01:05:08,039 --> 01:05:06,279 it's at man okay and and we know in the 1433 01:05:10,529 --> 01:05:08,049 science arena where that I deal with in 1434 01:05:13,259 --> 01:05:10,539 astronomy and astrophysics I know that 1435 01:05:14,759 --> 01:05:13,269 there are possibilities that are just at 1436 01:05:16,890 --> 01:05:14,769 the fringe of our intellectual 1437 01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:16,900 understanding never mind being a more 1438 01:05:21,569 --> 01:05:19,930 distant technology okay we can defeat 1439 01:05:23,759 --> 01:05:21,579 the speed limit of light in the universe 1440 01:05:27,180 --> 01:05:23,769 okay we can just do an end run around it 1441 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:27,190 okay by warping space okay that's a 1442 01:05:30,599 --> 01:05:28,930 whole showing itself right sure you know 1443 01:05:31,950 --> 01:05:30,609 so I'll do that on my show because of 1444 01:05:33,989 --> 01:05:31,960 you know this is your show and we don't 1445 01:05:36,239 --> 01:05:33,999 wanna talk about that here you know we 1446 01:05:39,089 --> 01:05:36,249 sort of want to touch upon it but I 1447 01:05:40,979 --> 01:05:39,099 think Neil deGrasse Tyson is actually 1448 01:05:43,739 --> 01:05:40,989 coming around a little bit I mean you 1449 01:05:45,900 --> 01:05:43,749 know how I know that I know that because 1450 01:05:49,319 --> 01:05:45,910 he actually connected with me and 1451 01:05:52,380 --> 01:05:49,329 Linkedin and I am someone who when I 1452 01:05:54,209 --> 01:05:52,390 well he sent me a request and and I'm 1453 01:05:57,059 --> 01:05:54,219 not saying they'd look at me and nothing 1454 01:05:58,859 --> 01:05:57,069 at all okay because I was in the boat 1455 01:06:04,009 --> 01:05:58,869 saying well he'll always be one of these 1456 01:06:07,039 --> 01:06:04,019 evidence deniers you know so why is he 1457 01:06:10,769 --> 01:06:07,049 listening to what I might have to say 1458 01:06:13,709 --> 01:06:10,779 because maybe I'm a science guy who 1459 01:06:15,959 --> 01:06:13,719 looks like I'm on the edge perhaps to 1460 01:06:20,489 --> 01:06:15,969 him well I'm a science guy that actually 1461 01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:20,499 can actually convinced that we are now 1462 01:06:25,799 --> 01:06:22,450 and probably have been visited for 1463 01:06:27,749 --> 01:06:25,809 perhaps billions of years I and I mean 1464 01:06:29,999 --> 01:06:27,759 that's not a wild thing to think about 1465 01:06:32,190 --> 01:06:30,009 right because we're carbon-based 1466 01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:32,200 creatures we need oxygen to make energy 1467 01:06:36,599 --> 01:06:34,690 in our bodies our planet is full of 1468 01:06:38,940 --> 01:06:36,609 oxygen in the atmosphere it's actually a 1469 01:06:40,750 --> 01:06:38,950 disequilibrium of the planet it doesn't 1470 01:06:44,710 --> 01:06:40,760 want to be this way right 1471 01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:44,720 so if we actually can put ourselves in a 1472 01:06:49,270 --> 01:06:46,850 position of an advanced race 30 1473 01:06:50,740 --> 01:06:49,280 light-years away they're gonna look if 1474 01:06:53,590 --> 01:06:50,750 they're carbon-based they're gonna look 1475 01:06:55,090 --> 01:06:53,600 for other oxygen planets you know with 1476 01:06:57,940 --> 01:06:55,100 that would that in the atmosphere we're 1477 01:06:59,170 --> 01:06:57,950 trying to do that now you know so they 1478 01:07:00,970 --> 01:06:59,180 probably did it a million years ago 1479 01:07:03,790 --> 01:07:00,980 perhaps a billion years ago if they 1480 01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:03,800 advanced to that point and our oxygens 1481 01:07:07,870 --> 01:07:05,090 been in the atmosphere for over two 1482 01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:07,880 billion years so we're 2 billion light 1483 01:07:12,130 --> 01:07:10,130 years out man Stephen Hawking said don't 1484 01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:12,140 send the signal don't let them know 1485 01:07:16,540 --> 01:07:14,810 we're here too late we did it over 2 1486 01:07:19,330 --> 01:07:16,550 billion years ago and it wasn't even our 1487 01:07:23,230 --> 01:07:19,340 doing well yeah I mean that that's it's 1488 01:07:25,390 --> 01:07:23,240 a really good point and just to refer to 1489 01:07:26,590 --> 01:07:25,400 a comment that Jason had made to made 1490 01:07:28,330 --> 01:07:26,600 earlier 1491 01:07:31,660 --> 01:07:28,340 I think Jason you were alluding to 1492 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:31,670 Bigelow laying off the workforce right 1493 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:34,250 and and taking a hit there what what do 1494 01:07:39,550 --> 01:07:37,010 you think what does that mean can you 1495 01:07:41,790 --> 01:07:39,560 speculate on that mmm it's to be 1496 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:41,800 determined really I mean people who 1497 01:07:47,230 --> 01:07:44,810 worked at Bigelow Aerospace and and 1498 01:07:48,820 --> 01:07:47,240 previously worked for for Bigelow 1499 01:07:52,780 --> 01:07:48,830 Aerospace prior to it to the laying off 1500 01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:52,790 to have have asserted that it's a 1501 01:07:57,610 --> 01:07:55,010 complete liquidation of all the 1502 01:07:59,260 --> 01:07:57,620 businesses assets so if that's the case 1503 01:08:01,540 --> 01:07:59,270 that means Bigelow Aerospace isn't 1504 01:08:04,330 --> 01:08:01,550 coming back that's a really that's a 1505 01:08:06,940 --> 01:08:04,340 that's difficult to hear yeah that do 1506 01:08:08,710 --> 01:08:06,950 you think that will that affect his 1507 01:08:10,540 --> 01:08:08,720 funding or interest in the power normal 1508 01:08:13,300 --> 01:08:10,550 at all or is that completely separate 1509 01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:13,310 from I would imagine that would free up 1510 01:08:22,180 --> 01:08:17,930 this money for the paranormal yeah good 1511 01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:22,190 so what Jason said is smart if we can 1512 01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:24,170 get just a few more billionaires to not 1513 01:08:27,220 --> 01:08:25,970 buy yachts and investigating the 1514 01:08:29,470 --> 01:08:27,230 paranormal we might have something 1515 01:08:31,480 --> 01:08:29,480 that's all we need I mean we need to get 1516 01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:31,490 you on musk to shift his focus I mean 1517 01:08:35,019 --> 01:08:33,170 serious puts his money into good stuff 1518 01:08:36,579 --> 01:08:35,029 too I you know I love what he does but 1519 01:08:37,420 --> 01:08:36,589 if we can get him to put some money into 1520 01:08:39,430 --> 01:08:37,430 the paranormal 1521 01:08:43,210 --> 01:08:39,440 we'd be alright I I have been a lone 1522 01:08:46,990 --> 01:08:43,220 voice on Twitter tagging my state city 1523 01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:47,000 and go governor to get Elan musta come 1524 01:08:50,440 --> 01:08:49,970 in here and revamp our subway system to 1525 01:08:53,539 --> 01:08:50,450 no avail 1526 01:08:58,039 --> 01:08:53,549 but that would be my dream you know 1527 01:09:00,410 --> 01:08:58,049 yeah yeah we need some space tubes here 1528 01:09:02,390 --> 01:09:00,420 can I add one thing sure I think um in 1529 01:09:05,510 --> 01:09:02,400 terms of Bigelow and the liquidation and 1530 01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:05,520 him possibly going away we got to keep 1531 01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:08,370 in mind too whether you hate them or not 1532 01:09:13,820 --> 01:09:11,130 the whole Tom DeLonge thing and to the 1533 01:09:17,450 --> 01:09:13,830 Stars Academy you know now that they're 1534 01:09:20,750 --> 01:09:17,460 pumping money into researching meta 1535 01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:20,760 materials from possible down UFOs or 1536 01:09:25,039 --> 01:09:22,170 what-have-you 1537 01:09:27,710 --> 01:09:25,049 that's a big deal with the the armies 1538 01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:27,720 backing to do that or you look at these 1539 01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:29,850 members of what could be an invisible 1540 01:09:36,620 --> 01:09:32,850 college we don't know which scientists 1541 01:09:39,590 --> 01:09:36,630 are looking at this off the records or 1542 01:09:40,730 --> 01:09:39,600 in the shadows as it were so I mean I 1543 01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:40,740 have hope that there are other 1544 01:09:44,990 --> 01:09:42,930 scientists out there or entrepreneurs 1545 01:09:48,079 --> 01:09:45,000 with a lot of money like the guy who now 1546 01:09:50,510 --> 01:09:48,089 owns skinwalker ranch or DeLong and 1547 01:09:52,430 --> 01:09:50,520 they're at their thing or you look at 1548 01:09:55,700 --> 01:09:52,440 someone like Jacques Vallee who's been 1549 01:09:58,730 --> 01:09:55,710 collecting materials for years and is 1550 01:10:03,170 --> 01:09:58,740 getting really really interesting 1551 01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:03,180 results with the scientific investigate 1552 01:10:07,940 --> 01:10:05,850 experiments he's doing as well so you 1553 01:10:10,250 --> 01:10:07,950 know it's sad to think that Bigelow 1554 01:10:13,730 --> 01:10:10,260 private space exploration might be done 1555 01:10:17,030 --> 01:10:13,740 but I do agree with Jason I under if he 1556 01:10:19,180 --> 01:10:17,040 will now focus his efforts back on the 1557 01:10:22,580 --> 01:10:19,190 paranormal I guess we'll have to see 1558 01:10:24,110 --> 01:10:22,590 yeah exactly have your fingers crossing 1559 01:10:26,870 --> 01:10:24,120 our fingers here yes all right so 1560 01:10:28,610 --> 01:10:26,880 innovation what Jason when did you find 1561 01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:28,620 that information out were you doing a 1562 01:10:34,100 --> 01:10:31,890 story about him or something no no I was 1563 01:10:35,750 --> 01:10:34,110 just you know I'm friends with some 1564 01:10:37,010 --> 01:10:35,760 people who used to work with Bigelow so 1565 01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:37,020 I was just following what they were 1566 01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:38,730 posting online about it mm-hmm 1567 01:10:42,980 --> 01:10:41,370 okay yeah um and so if you have 1568 01:10:45,410 --> 01:10:42,990 questions for our guest tonight or you 1569 01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:45,420 have a story of your own to share you 1570 01:10:51,500 --> 01:10:47,610 can call in about ten minutes we'll open 1571 01:10:54,740 --> 01:10:51,510 the lines that's eight 5kg are a live 1572 01:10:59,090 --> 01:10:54,750 for the paranormal radio at hotline 85kg 1573 01:11:02,480 --> 01:10:59,100 are a live so you know i think i think 1574 01:11:05,450 --> 01:11:02,490 that you know Bigelow being around as 1575 01:11:07,229 --> 01:11:05,460 long as he has a lot of conspiracies out 1576 01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:07,239 there about him being on the wrong team 1577 01:11:15,270 --> 01:11:10,690 as it were because his name just keeps 1578 01:11:18,180 --> 01:11:15,280 popping up you know no matter what what 1579 01:11:22,740 --> 01:11:18,190 the situation is so is there a chance do 1580 01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:22,750 you think that that he's not playing for 1581 01:11:27,390 --> 01:11:24,489 both sides as it word that the 1582 01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:27,400 enthusiasts like us and the government 1583 01:11:34,350 --> 01:11:32,050 or is he just really good at and as a 1584 01:11:38,850 --> 01:11:34,360 salesman at getting himself involved in 1585 01:11:42,420 --> 01:11:38,860 projects I think money grants you access 1586 01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:42,430 to a lot of things and certainly if you 1587 01:11:48,060 --> 01:11:45,250 have money and can be involved or can 1588 01:11:50,190 --> 01:11:48,070 spearhead a lot of these projects if 1589 01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:50,200 you've got money you really have your 1590 01:11:55,290 --> 01:11:52,690 pick of the pool everybody's going to 1591 01:11:56,940 --> 01:11:55,300 want to work for you and we've seen that 1592 01:11:59,820 --> 01:11:56,950 time and time again in this field I mean 1593 01:12:01,709 --> 01:11:59,830 anytime somebody ponies up some cash and 1594 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:01,719 says hey you want to come be involved 1595 01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:04,690 with this people in the UFO field they 1596 01:12:07,530 --> 01:12:05,890 don't really care what it is they're 1597 01:12:10,410 --> 01:12:07,540 going to flock to you and say yay 1598 01:12:12,870 --> 01:12:10,420 something that pays me money everybody 1599 01:12:14,370 --> 01:12:12,880 wants to be involved so I think that's 1600 01:12:16,140 --> 01:12:14,380 been the case with a lot of what biggle 1601 01:12:19,260 --> 01:12:16,150 has been involved with he's had money 1602 01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:19,270 and certainly with with the you know a 1603 01:12:24,300 --> 01:12:21,850 tip and us out programs you know he had 1604 01:12:27,270 --> 01:12:24,310 you know contracts from the government 1605 01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:27,280 he had cash to be able to to pay people 1606 01:12:32,070 --> 01:12:29,650 so he was able to really put out a call 1607 01:12:33,450 --> 01:12:32,080 and bring in all of these various people 1608 01:12:35,459 --> 01:12:33,460 and you I mean Bickle is not the only 1609 01:12:38,490 --> 01:12:35,469 one you look at a lot of other people 1610 01:12:41,490 --> 01:12:38,500 who have been involved in many of these 1611 01:12:44,190 --> 01:12:41,500 UFO projects over the years John 1612 01:12:46,229 --> 01:12:44,200 Alexander is another one you know good 1613 01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:46,239 friend of Bob Bigelow and has been tied 1614 01:12:50,250 --> 01:12:47,890 in with all of these programs it's gonna 1615 01:12:52,050 --> 01:12:50,260 walk a ranch all of it so I mean there's 1616 01:12:54,510 --> 01:12:52,060 a lot of that but you get a lot of the 1617 01:12:57,180 --> 01:12:54,520 same players to you because although the 1618 01:13:00,330 --> 01:12:57,190 UFO field is somewhat big it's also 1619 01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:00,340 incredibly small that's true everybody 1620 01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:12,150 higher things Ellen can I add in terms 1621 01:13:17,310 --> 01:13:15,250 of the the financing of these programs 1622 01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:17,320 are these investigations into the 1623 01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:20,650 unknown I think it's important to to 1624 01:13:25,860 --> 01:13:22,690 look at the new owner of a skinwalker 1625 01:13:28,140 --> 01:13:25,870 ranch he specifically states you know 1626 01:13:30,450 --> 01:13:28,150 that I want no help from the government 1627 01:13:32,430 --> 01:13:30,460 whereas we know a lot of the work skin 1628 01:13:35,610 --> 01:13:32,440 that Bob Bigelow did of skinwalker ranch 1629 01:13:37,710 --> 01:13:35,620 was funded by government money so now 1630 01:13:39,900 --> 01:13:37,720 that we have skinwalker ranch now under 1631 01:13:41,010 --> 01:13:39,910 new ownership with gentleman who 1632 01:13:43,020 --> 01:13:41,020 respectively 1633 01:13:45,060 --> 01:13:43,030 does not want to work with the 1634 01:13:49,380 --> 01:13:45,070 government or classifying any of the 1635 01:13:51,990 --> 01:13:49,390 information he finds he did say that he 1636 01:13:54,180 --> 01:13:52,000 met in Washington and briefed them on 1637 01:13:56,550 --> 01:13:54,190 what he was doing so I mean that's 1638 01:13:59,130 --> 01:13:56,560 that's a whole other story but in terms 1639 01:14:01,560 --> 01:13:59,140 of financing I think yeah we have to 1640 01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:01,570 we just got hope that more excited 1641 01:14:08,550 --> 01:14:05,290 passionate rich people will get involved 1642 01:14:11,550 --> 01:14:08,560 and to constantly look at their motives 1643 01:14:15,510 --> 01:14:11,560 and agendas as well what do you make of 1644 01:14:17,370 --> 01:14:15,520 Brandon foogoo I think he's cool I mean 1645 01:14:19,710 --> 01:14:17,380 he's been very transparent from the 1646 01:14:21,540 --> 01:14:19,720 start not not in terms of his identity 1647 01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:21,550 that's something we just learned but 1648 01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:23,890 when it comes to what he's doing and 1649 01:14:28,410 --> 01:14:26,770 what he plans on doing I think he's been 1650 01:14:30,660 --> 01:14:28,420 pretty straightforward he doesn't 1651 01:14:33,750 --> 01:14:30,670 pretend to have answers he doesn't 1652 01:14:36,660 --> 01:14:33,760 pretend that there's going or promise 1653 01:14:39,450 --> 01:14:36,670 there's going to be any bombshells 1654 01:14:42,090 --> 01:14:39,460 coming out of there but look he did this 1655 01:14:46,140 --> 01:14:42,100 for a reason it clearly it wasn't to 1656 01:14:47,550 --> 01:14:46,150 make money so who knows who knows what's 1657 01:14:49,260 --> 01:14:47,560 gonna happen I guess we'll have to wait 1658 01:14:51,540 --> 01:14:49,270 and see the TV show I know he's gonna be 1659 01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:51,550 involved with that but um yeah I think 1660 01:14:55,860 --> 01:14:53,890 he's a pretty cool dude just from him 1661 01:14:59,580 --> 01:14:55,870 now coming forward and talking about it 1662 01:15:00,990 --> 01:14:59,590 um I'm on board so far I agree it's what 1663 01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:01,000 we just were talking about you know 1664 01:15:05,250 --> 01:15:03,610 hoping for another person who wants to 1665 01:15:06,540 --> 01:15:05,260 spend their money on the paranormal here 1666 01:15:09,570 --> 01:15:06,550 we go with money 1667 01:15:12,450 --> 01:15:09,580 my skinwalker ranch and then doing a TV 1668 01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:12,460 show so we can see skinwalker ranch and 1669 01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:15,010 you know go along for the ride 1670 01:15:19,770 --> 01:15:17,010 with some of these experiments and and 1671 01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:19,780 you know see what happens and you know 1672 01:15:25,290 --> 01:15:22,210 Alan I I share some of your reservations 1673 01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:25,300 concerns about the the news show and you 1674 01:15:29,130 --> 01:15:27,010 know what will we really see what would 1675 01:15:32,010 --> 01:15:29,140 that really be any any me to this show 1676 01:15:33,570 --> 01:15:32,020 and you know I think Brandon really 1677 01:15:36,030 --> 01:15:33,580 wants to 1678 01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:36,040 he's not really focused on entertainment 1679 01:15:39,510 --> 01:15:37,570 I think he really is passionate and 1680 01:15:45,300 --> 01:15:39,520 wants to find answers to these mysteries 1681 01:15:47,310 --> 01:15:45,310 so that gives me hope but also this well 1682 01:15:50,100 --> 01:15:47,320 probably next week well I guess this 1683 01:15:51,750 --> 01:15:50,110 week on rogue planet TV we're going to 1684 01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:51,760 make an announcement we've got a show 1685 01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:53,770 we're rolling out that is directly tied 1686 01:16:00,570 --> 01:15:56,290 to the secretive skinwalker ranch and 1687 01:16:03,510 --> 01:16:00,580 it's you know in it has people involved 1688 01:16:05,100 --> 01:16:03,520 from the show right who are leading this 1689 01:16:08,940 --> 01:16:05,110 this new show that we're rolling out 1690 01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:08,950 that will give people a chance to really 1691 01:16:14,100 --> 01:16:10,810 hear the inside sort of behind the 1692 01:16:15,390 --> 01:16:14,110 scenes of making the show as well as you 1693 01:16:17,940 --> 01:16:15,400 know talking to some of the people on 1694 01:16:20,010 --> 01:16:17,950 the show and finding out about how it 1695 01:16:21,900 --> 01:16:20,020 was made and and what actually went on 1696 01:16:24,180 --> 01:16:21,910 during the investigations yeah I think 1697 01:16:25,940 --> 01:16:24,190 you I think you're right it's goes with 1698 01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:25,950 my analogy with the curse of Oak Island 1699 01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:28,330 even though there is a lot of filler 1700 01:16:33,090 --> 01:16:30,970 over like us almost seven years now 1701 01:16:36,540 --> 01:16:33,100 they actually have found artifacts and 1702 01:16:37,980 --> 01:16:36,550 in the past couple of years they've made 1703 01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:37,990 some really significant discoveries 1704 01:16:41,340 --> 01:16:39,850 which i think is great 1705 01:16:44,430 --> 01:16:41,350 I just think you can condense that into 1706 01:16:45,630 --> 01:16:44,440 five episodes no but but at the same 1707 01:16:48,480 --> 01:16:45,640 time the reason it's one of the most 1708 01:16:50,730 --> 01:16:48,490 popular shows is the same reason we do 1709 01:16:52,860 --> 01:16:50,740 this program which is right now just 1710 01:16:54,420 --> 01:16:52,870 living in the mystery like there's 1711 01:16:56,610 --> 01:16:54,430 something about going on that journey 1712 01:16:58,770 --> 01:16:56,620 and not getting the answer and just 1713 01:17:01,170 --> 01:16:58,780 getting little tidbits along the way and 1714 01:17:03,690 --> 01:17:01,180 that's that's something that keeps 1715 01:17:09,330 --> 01:17:03,700 bringing me back to ufology to the 1716 01:17:11,820 --> 01:17:09,340 paranormal shows like that okay no no 1717 01:17:14,190 --> 01:17:11,830 bad car okay the the new owner of 1718 01:17:17,310 --> 01:17:14,200 skinwalker ranch because this name is 1719 01:17:18,780 --> 01:17:17,320 new to me Brandon fuga lugol's fu G al 1720 01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:18,790 he's 46 easy 1721 01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:20,650 he reached real estate developer from 1722 01:17:25,980 --> 01:17:23,410 Utah and here's his quote this is from 1723 01:17:28,110 --> 01:17:25,990 Newsweek magazine of all places quote 1724 01:17:29,820 --> 01:17:28,120 science and discovery are what drive me 1725 01:17:32,370 --> 01:17:29,830 it's not money it's not that I'm 1726 01:17:35,010 --> 01:17:32,380 obsessed with UFOs or little green men 1727 01:17:37,710 --> 01:17:35,020 or cattle mutilations or shape-shifting 1728 01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:37,720 demonic and demonic entities I have no 1729 01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:40,330 idea if aliens exist you'd have to ask 1730 01:17:46,290 --> 01:17:42,010 them and quotes 1731 01:17:46,859 --> 01:17:46,300 that's brilliant that is really yeah 1732 01:17:49,109 --> 01:17:46,869 yeah 1733 01:17:50,609 --> 01:17:49,119 I'm not mark do you have hope that he's 1734 01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:50,619 gonna discover something I know you tend 1735 01:17:54,689 --> 01:17:51,730 to be a little more conservative on they 1736 01:17:56,430 --> 01:17:54,699 met these matters for the most part I in 1737 01:18:01,439 --> 01:17:56,440 an in general light I have to be 1738 01:18:02,580 --> 01:18:01,449 conservative because I as a science 1739 01:18:04,260 --> 01:18:02,590 person I don't want to jump to 1740 01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:04,270 conclusions right we want to maintain we 1741 01:18:09,270 --> 01:18:06,130 do the proper scientific method with the 1742 01:18:12,300 --> 01:18:09,280 science we can but we don't have science 1743 01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:12,310 we we have to make some kind of 1744 01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:15,730 speculative assumptions on the submarine 1745 01:18:20,490 --> 01:18:18,010 we you know I speculated that this thing 1746 01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:20,500 moving several hundred knots was nothing 1747 01:18:25,830 --> 01:18:23,770 human nothing that any humans made okay 1748 01:18:29,700 --> 01:18:25,840 it certainly wasn't a supersonic whale 1749 01:18:35,339 --> 01:18:29,710 fart okay let's be clear okay but on the 1750 01:18:38,490 --> 01:18:35,349 other hand I did look up to be clear the 1751 01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:38,500 Navy was granted several patents just 1752 01:18:45,270 --> 01:18:42,010 recently and Ryan and Jason you guys may 1753 01:18:49,919 --> 01:18:45,280 know about this I don't know these and 1754 01:18:53,070 --> 01:18:49,929 maybe Carol these patents that were 1755 01:18:56,399 --> 01:18:53,080 granted to the Navy were for very 1756 01:18:58,800 --> 01:18:56,409 high-speed underwater vehicles that 1757 01:19:00,359 --> 01:18:58,810 could move way faster than current 1758 01:19:01,500 --> 01:19:00,369 technology allows and we're not talking 1759 01:19:04,620 --> 01:19:01,510 about torpedoes we're talking about 1760 01:19:07,169 --> 01:19:04,630 vessels all right they were just granted 1761 01:19:09,300 --> 01:19:07,179 patents for this now I look at that and 1762 01:19:11,790 --> 01:19:09,310 say well if the patents are just granted 1763 01:19:13,830 --> 01:19:11,800 now does it mean that maybe this existed 1764 01:19:15,839 --> 01:19:13,840 decades ago and they're just patenting 1765 01:19:18,450 --> 01:19:15,849 and now I mean you can't say it's not 1766 01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:18,460 true from a science perspective which is 1767 01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:20,650 what I base things on I would have to 1768 01:19:25,859 --> 01:19:23,530 say well it could have been that it was 1769 01:19:27,450 --> 01:19:25,869 being tested way back then look how long 1770 01:19:29,490 --> 01:19:27,460 it took the stealth fighter to go into 1771 01:19:30,959 --> 01:19:29,500 production and become known I mean those 1772 01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:30,969 number of years right well I'm talking 1773 01:19:35,820 --> 01:19:32,530 decades for this but this is a huge 1774 01:19:38,660 --> 01:19:35,830 technology but they said the patents 1775 01:19:41,970 --> 01:19:38,670 that were granted allow the Navy to now 1776 01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:41,980 own technology that will allow them to 1777 01:19:47,550 --> 01:19:44,770 go really fast underwater as if the 1778 01:19:50,100 --> 01:19:47,560 water isn't really a factor and really 1779 01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:50,110 fast in the air as well doing maneuvers 1780 01:19:53,820 --> 01:19:51,730 that are unlike any known to any 1781 01:19:57,450 --> 01:19:53,830 aircraft or submarine to this to the to 1782 01:20:00,720 --> 01:19:57,460 the day of today okay that sort of 1783 01:20:02,430 --> 01:20:00,730 sounds like well every UFO that we talk 1784 01:20:04,590 --> 01:20:02,440 about now is that mean it's all one of 1785 01:20:08,790 --> 01:20:04,600 ours we can't say it's not it's and 1786 01:20:13,229 --> 01:20:08,800 phibian that an amphibian machine I mean 1787 01:20:15,060 --> 01:20:13,239 what would well the technology applied 1788 01:20:17,070 --> 01:20:15,070 to an undersea vehicle versus technology 1789 01:20:20,070 --> 01:20:17,080 applied to an aerial vehicle the same 1790 01:20:22,229 --> 01:20:20,080 technology can be applied to both with 1791 01:20:25,260 --> 01:20:22,239 differences I mean there's a medium just 1792 01:20:28,440 --> 01:20:25,270 like water okay it's just dinner than 1793 01:20:30,330 --> 01:20:28,450 water okay so the concept of how these 1794 01:20:33,930 --> 01:20:30,340 vehicles travel through a medium is sort 1795 01:20:36,330 --> 01:20:33,940 of the big thing here I don't know what 1796 01:20:38,100 --> 01:20:36,340 they've patented cuz I didn't read the 1797 01:20:41,790 --> 01:20:38,110 patent because I can't get access to the 1798 01:20:44,220 --> 01:20:41,800 pen okay because it was a it was a 1799 01:20:46,590 --> 01:20:44,230 secret patent but the patent has to be 1800 01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:46,600 logged in the US Patent Office and so I 1801 01:20:53,010 --> 01:20:49,330 saw that and it's like wow that's pretty 1802 01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:53,020 impressive so we we can't say no to that 1803 01:20:58,560 --> 01:20:56,770 so we don't know about yet and we don't 1804 01:21:02,670 --> 01:20:58,570 know the answer to that question you 1805 01:21:07,620 --> 01:21:02,680 know Carol has her finger up being at 1806 01:21:11,430 --> 01:21:07,630 the ceiling no can you substantiate that 1807 01:21:14,460 --> 01:21:11,440 meme that that you know I the validity 1808 01:21:16,260 --> 01:21:14,470 okay Apocrypha or not the fact that the 1809 01:21:20,310 --> 01:21:16,270 United States military has for a long 1810 01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:20,320 time had stuff technologies that are 50 1811 01:21:24,780 --> 01:21:22,690 years ahead of what we then come to find 1812 01:21:27,110 --> 01:21:24,790 out commercially with that 50 year thing 1813 01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:27,120 would you what what's your take on that 1814 01:21:32,940 --> 01:21:29,650 okay in my view because I do a lot of 1815 01:21:36,900 --> 01:21:32,950 work for the Navy I work on submarine 1816 01:21:40,380 --> 01:21:36,910 designs for the Navy which is again I'm 1817 01:21:42,780 --> 01:21:40,390 General Dynamics contractor for doing 1818 01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:42,790 those kinds of models right among 1819 01:21:50,790 --> 01:21:46,690 everything else I do and I worked on 1820 01:21:55,440 --> 01:21:50,800 boats and models and designs that are 30 1821 01:22:00,180 --> 01:21:55,450 years from being cut in steel okay and 1822 01:22:01,500 --> 01:22:00,190 so there is I know I wouldn't say 50 1823 01:22:04,290 --> 01:22:01,510 years I think that's just a round number 1824 01:22:06,210 --> 01:22:04,300 people are playing with but I know for a 1825 01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:06,220 fact that all the technology I dealt 1826 01:22:11,070 --> 01:22:08,890 with the stuff that I'm we're seeing now 1827 01:22:13,480 --> 01:22:11,080 in the water is stuff I built models of 1828 01:22:15,460 --> 01:22:13,490 20 years ago mmm I 1829 01:22:18,430 --> 01:22:15,470 years ago before was ever out there so 1830 01:22:20,550 --> 01:22:18,440 maybe 30 years but that's how long it 1831 01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:20,560 takes the matura technology from an idea 1832 01:22:24,700 --> 01:22:23,090 and beyond with the actual thing when 1833 01:22:26,380 --> 01:22:24,710 you put people's lives in danger when 1834 01:22:28,060 --> 01:22:26,390 you stick them inside a boat and travel 1835 01:22:30,070 --> 01:22:28,070 underwater you better have your 1836 01:22:33,670 --> 01:22:30,080 technology in line so they spend a lot 1837 01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:33,680 of time you know working that out so 1838 01:22:37,480 --> 01:22:35,810 that's that's my experience with it but 1839 01:22:39,010 --> 01:22:37,490 again I'm only in that little narrow 1840 01:22:42,250 --> 01:22:39,020 zone 1841 01:22:45,940 --> 01:22:42,260 I did I did let my clearance go two 1842 01:22:47,380 --> 01:22:45,950 years ago during my recovery I had to 1843 01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:47,390 learn how to see walk and talk again 1844 01:22:51,340 --> 01:22:48,770 that was kind of an important one 1845 01:22:53,260 --> 01:22:51,350 so I said all-consuming yeah to maintain 1846 01:22:57,070 --> 01:22:53,270 the clearance is just not gonna do it so 1847 01:22:59,140 --> 01:22:57,080 I I begged out of the program got out I 1848 01:23:00,760 --> 01:22:59,150 was right out of the program if they 1849 01:23:03,550 --> 01:23:00,770 want me back they can get me back but 1850 01:23:06,970 --> 01:23:03,560 I'm I'm not interested I have my life 1851 01:23:10,510 --> 01:23:06,980 back now you know I have privacy again 1852 01:23:15,100 --> 01:23:10,520 so I don't know I think Ellen and to 1853 01:23:17,770 --> 01:23:15,110 answer that question I don't know what 1854 01:23:20,100 --> 01:23:17,780 he's gonna see at skinwalker ranch I 1855 01:23:24,940 --> 01:23:20,110 don't know whether there's going to be 1856 01:23:28,780 --> 01:23:24,950 any revelations I'm conservative yes but 1857 01:23:30,970 --> 01:23:28,790 I'm also hopeful that it is something 1858 01:24:02,320 --> 01:23:30,980 beyond I mean I know there's things here 1859 01:24:03,190 --> 01:24:02,330 are we've seen him you know I do and 1860 01:24:05,260 --> 01:24:03,200 it's not 1861 01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:05,270 I don't shouldn't say this on the air 1862 01:24:10,950 --> 01:24:08,410 but your mic suddenly went very very low 1863 01:24:14,410 --> 01:24:10,960 so I'm not sure what happened there I 1864 01:24:18,670 --> 01:24:14,420 heard I think most we said so the 1865 01:24:21,850 --> 01:24:18,680 emdrive in NASA oh good okay yeah what 1866 01:24:25,620 --> 01:24:21,860 what do you think that is because it's 1867 01:24:27,470 --> 01:24:25,630 like an anti grant of time warp drive 1868 01:24:30,229 --> 01:24:27,480 why would they even 1869 01:24:32,350 --> 01:24:30,239 talk about that openly if if in fact we 1870 01:24:35,510 --> 01:24:32,360 have such advanced technologies already 1871 01:24:37,130 --> 01:24:35,520 well part of the problem is that most of 1872 01:24:39,710 --> 01:24:37,140 those designs are figured out in a 1873 01:24:43,220 --> 01:24:39,720 university by a mathematician or a 1874 01:24:45,650 --> 01:24:43,230 physicist or an astrophysicist 1875 01:24:46,940 --> 01:24:45,660 in 1994 Miguel Alcubierre II came up 1876 01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:46,950 with the AL khabiri drive it was a 1877 01:24:50,630 --> 01:24:48,690 tensor Jason knows what it is 1878 01:24:52,670 --> 01:24:50,640 Ryan knows what it is I think you also 1879 01:24:53,990 --> 01:24:52,680 know what it is Carol and now on those 1880 01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:54,000 artists we talked about it I think in 1881 01:24:59,150 --> 01:24:55,770 the show but he came up with that in 1882 01:25:01,390 --> 01:24:59,160 1994 an eagle works labs that's a 1883 01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:01,400 nasa-funded lab that sunny white is 1884 01:25:06,950 --> 01:25:03,930 heading up this division of interstellar 1885 01:25:11,660 --> 01:25:06,960 propulsion and he actually you know 1886 01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:11,670 getting money to look at this drive it 1887 01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:14,730 wasn't practical until they reworked the 1888 01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:17,250 geometry of a potential ship and found 1889 01:25:20,930 --> 01:25:18,570 that the energy requirements are 1890 01:25:24,470 --> 01:25:20,940 drastically reduced yeah if use a 1891 01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:24,480 different approach so you see I think 1892 01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:26,130 originally wasn't like the energy of a 1893 01:25:30,830 --> 01:25:27,570 Sun but required for the AL khabiri 1894 01:25:32,090 --> 01:25:30,840 drive something about minds like theirs 1895 01:25:34,340 --> 01:25:32,100 do you hear a lot of different things 1896 01:25:38,180 --> 01:25:34,350 and what I tell people publicly because 1897 01:25:40,310 --> 01:25:38,190 that's I think the best way to say it 1898 01:25:42,229 --> 01:25:40,320 it used to require the equivalent of 1899 01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:42,239 converting the entire planet Jupiter the 1900 01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:43,890 biggest planet in our solar system to 1901 01:25:47,510 --> 01:25:46,050 energy and using all that energy to 1902 01:25:49,610 --> 01:25:47,520 create this what's called a warp bubble 1903 01:25:51,260 --> 01:25:49,620 around the ship to help it you know warp 1904 01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:51,270 and Bend space so that we can actually 1905 01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:53,850 pull the distant things closer to us and 1906 01:25:59,420 --> 01:25:57,330 suddenly were there you know but now 1907 01:26:02,240 --> 01:25:59,430 with the reworking of the geometry of 1908 01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:02,250 the ship it's more like a size of 1909 01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:04,530 something like the Voyager spacecraft so 1910 01:26:09,260 --> 01:26:07,170 the mass difference is like 10 to 20 6 1911 01:26:12,350 --> 01:26:09,270 power difference you know sure that's a 1912 01:26:15,740 --> 01:26:12,360 huge difference in fact enough so that 1913 01:26:17,750 --> 01:26:15,750 NASA said hmm maybe we should fund a lab 1914 01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:17,760 to look at this because if we can 1915 01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:19,650 actually send a coke bottle size probe 1916 01:26:24,050 --> 01:26:21,530 to Alpha Centauri in just six days 1917 01:26:28,340 --> 01:26:24,060 that's better than the 12,000 years it 1918 01:26:31,100 --> 01:26:28,350 would take now absolutely yeah and so C 1919 01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:31,110 are you a mystic that that technology 1920 01:26:36,860 --> 01:26:34,530 that we can get there oh absolutely yeah 1921 01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:36,870 absolutely AM yeah and all we have to do 1922 01:26:40,250 --> 01:26:38,130 is look at our past history in 1923 01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:40,260 technological discovery to see that 1924 01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:41,250 remember that 1925 01:26:47,870 --> 01:26:42,570 when people said if he goes supersonic 1926 01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:47,880 you're gonna blow up right these guys no 1927 01:26:51,740 --> 01:26:49,650 no they're all saying they're all 1928 01:26:54,260 --> 01:26:51,750 nodding their head they know yeah so in 1929 01:26:55,820 --> 01:26:54,270 in again any technology that 1930 01:26:58,160 --> 01:26:55,830 sufficiently advanced looks like magic 1931 01:27:00,230 --> 01:26:58,170 we talked about that you know and 1932 01:27:02,330 --> 01:27:00,240 there's a lot of magic that we see with 1933 01:27:05,030 --> 01:27:02,340 UFOs isn't there oh absolutely 1934 01:27:07,070 --> 01:27:05,040 strange and things if you have any magic 1935 01:27:07,790 --> 01:27:07,080 to share with us tonight the phone lines 1936 01:27:10,070 --> 01:27:07,800 are open 1937 01:27:13,070 --> 01:27:10,080 so the paranormal radio app phone line 1938 01:27:16,630 --> 01:27:13,080 is eight five five four seven two five 1939 01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:16,640 four eight three that's eight 5kg are a 1940 01:27:21,890 --> 01:27:19,770 live so call in wait for your cue and 1941 01:27:23,750 --> 01:27:21,900 we'll get you on the air just sound off 1942 01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:23,760 I do want to hear especially all y'all 1943 01:27:30,620 --> 01:27:27,210 in the chatroom what what it's been like 1944 01:27:32,780 --> 01:27:30,630 for you now during this coronavirus 1945 01:27:35,900 --> 01:27:32,790 episode of ours and any comments that 1946 01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:35,910 you have for our guests tonight so I do 1947 01:27:39,650 --> 01:27:38,010 want I do want to make sure we don't get 1948 01:27:42,500 --> 01:27:39,660 to the end without hitting some positive 1949 01:27:44,170 --> 01:27:42,510 things so I'll start with this and I 1950 01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:44,180 posted this like all over social media 1951 01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:48,330 my new favorite movie is troop zero it's 1952 01:27:55,190 --> 01:27:53,250 on Amazon I literally was hearing I mean 1953 01:27:57,110 --> 01:27:55,200 I tear up when I watch a movie but I was 1954 01:28:00,650 --> 01:27:57,120 literally tearing when I was watching 1955 01:28:03,500 --> 01:28:00,660 this and laughing and it was just such a 1956 01:28:05,690 --> 01:28:03,510 heartwarming film it just filled me with 1957 01:28:07,250 --> 01:28:05,700 humanity it was so beautiful so anybody 1958 01:28:10,820 --> 01:28:07,260 out there who just needs to feel good 1959 01:28:13,250 --> 01:28:10,830 that's it's a great film to watch 1960 01:28:15,890 --> 01:28:13,260 in other news rockets are being launched 1961 01:28:18,460 --> 01:28:15,900 into space nonetheless so that's that's 1962 01:28:20,870 --> 01:28:18,470 positive we now have a space force 1963 01:28:22,660 --> 01:28:20,880 engage in that regard that's another 1964 01:28:26,420 --> 01:28:22,670 topic I don't have to go down that road 1965 01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:26,430 but for y'all what what what what do you 1966 01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:28,170 have that's positive that can you can 1967 01:28:33,260 --> 01:28:29,250 share with everybody uplift their 1968 01:28:42,740 --> 01:28:33,270 spirits something that they can do Jason 1969 01:28:45,020 --> 01:28:42,750 me not mean us yeah I'll do a little 1970 01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:45,030 shameless plug for a thing Jason and I 1971 01:28:51,230 --> 01:28:47,610 recently did over a rogue planet we put 1972 01:28:53,930 --> 01:28:51,240 together a self quarantine list of UFO 1973 01:28:54,709 --> 01:28:53,940 content to consume while you're stuck in 1974 01:28:57,560 --> 01:28:54,719 your homes 1975 01:29:00,800 --> 01:28:57,570 and we're constantly updating it every 1976 01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:00,810 day so I started it but I certainly 1977 01:29:05,300 --> 01:29:02,010 don't want to end it 1978 01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:05,310 so yeah people in the chat room or 1979 01:29:11,300 --> 01:29:08,850 anyone has any any ideas of UFO content 1980 01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:11,310 you think people should use their time 1981 01:29:15,770 --> 01:29:14,250 with this would be a good opportunity so 1982 01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:15,780 yeah we had a lot of fun looking at the 1983 01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:18,690 list and talking about a lot of the UFO 1984 01:29:23,270 --> 01:29:21,090 content that's out there that we would 1985 01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:23,280 suggest and Alan I have a recommendation 1986 01:29:30,020 --> 01:29:27,090 to a show on Disney Plus called so weird 1987 01:29:34,939 --> 01:29:30,030 it's from the I want to say the mid-90s 1988 01:29:36,950 --> 01:29:34,949 maybe yes right yeah girl went out on 1989 01:29:38,930 --> 01:29:36,960 the road it's like an it's like the 1990 01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:38,940 x-files she's out on the road with her 1991 01:29:43,610 --> 01:29:40,890 mom who's a rock star of literal rock 1992 01:29:45,770 --> 01:29:43,620 star and she's investigating everything 1993 01:29:47,900 --> 01:29:45,780 from ghosts to Bigfoot to UFOs and 1994 01:29:50,300 --> 01:29:47,910 everything in between and I will tell 1995 01:29:52,220 --> 01:29:50,310 you this for a show on Disney and for a 1996 01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:52,230 character as young as this one is on the 1997 01:29:57,590 --> 01:29:54,810 show the protagonist they tackle some 1998 01:30:00,470 --> 01:29:57,600 really really interesting concepts and 1999 01:30:03,229 --> 01:30:00,480 theories in terms of quantum physics and 2000 01:30:06,830 --> 01:30:03,239 the early days of the Internet and the 2001 01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:06,840 simulation theory so yeah really really 2002 01:30:10,820 --> 01:30:08,489 really interesting for Disney but I 2003 01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:10,830 highly suggest people check it out it's 2004 01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:15,449 fun is the time yeah I like that what 2005 01:30:19,100 --> 01:30:17,730 about yeah can I do a shameless plug 2006 01:30:21,740 --> 01:30:19,110 then please do yeah 2007 01:30:23,959 --> 01:30:21,750 if people are gonna be shut in and I've 2008 01:30:26,150 --> 01:30:23,969 been noticing that my subscriber numbers 2009 01:30:34,729 --> 01:30:26,160 are actually jumping daily it's crazy 2010 01:30:37,070 --> 01:30:34,739 mm-hm they might yeah because people we 2011 01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:37,080 have we haven't an observatory that we 2012 01:30:41,390 --> 01:30:39,210 run on clear nights it's called sky tour 2013 01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:41,400 livestream and it's on YouTube and you 2014 01:30:44,570 --> 01:30:42,930 know it's public outreach in astronomy 2015 01:30:47,510 --> 01:30:44,580 it takes you into a beautiful big 2016 01:30:50,090 --> 01:30:47,520 observatory to see the deep sky in 2017 01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:50,100 seconds using special cameras that we've 2018 01:30:54,830 --> 01:30:52,890 got here and allows people to see what 2019 01:30:56,810 --> 01:30:54,840 it's like to go exploring the deep sky 2020 01:30:58,670 --> 01:30:56,820 see things they've never seen galaxies 2021 01:31:00,979 --> 01:30:58,680 star clusters things that just can't see 2022 01:31:02,510 --> 01:31:00,989 what they're I yeah and we have an 2023 01:31:04,550 --> 01:31:02,520 observatory here in Connecticut in fact 2024 01:31:06,890 --> 01:31:04,560 it's 80 feet that way on my front yard 2025 01:31:08,480 --> 01:31:06,900 but we're actually starting one in 2026 01:31:09,950 --> 01:31:08,490 Arizona we have a second 2027 01:31:12,500 --> 01:31:09,960 Observatory we're building in Arizona 2028 01:31:16,250 --> 01:31:12,510 right now Coronas kind of you know 2029 01:31:17,900 --> 01:31:16,260 slowed it down a little bit but we 2030 01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:17,910 poured the concrete pad we're adding an 2031 01:31:20,480 --> 01:31:19,050 instrument in there we're putting 2032 01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:20,490 another telescope another building out 2033 01:31:25,430 --> 01:31:23,010 there and we're gonna be looking at it 2034 01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:25,440 at the sky from the Sonoran Desert where 2035 01:31:31,370 --> 01:31:28,170 the sky is absolutely pitch black it's 2036 01:31:34,910 --> 01:31:31,380 beautiful so it represents a huge jump 2037 01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:34,920 in technology and if you're really bored 2038 01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:36,570 and you can't wait for the next clear 2039 01:31:41,110 --> 01:31:38,970 night sky tour livestream well then you 2040 01:31:44,510 --> 01:31:41,120 can always buy the populated universe 2041 01:31:46,700 --> 01:31:44,520 that's uh that's the book I wrote and 2042 01:31:50,030 --> 01:31:46,710 that it was a long time coming but it's 2043 01:31:51,650 --> 01:31:50,040 a book about you know the exoplanets and 2044 01:31:56,510 --> 01:31:51,660 the search for extraterrestrial life yes 2045 01:31:59,810 --> 01:31:56,520 here and out there really cool so at the 2046 01:32:01,640 --> 01:31:59,820 end the movie by the way it's a TV 2047 01:32:04,730 --> 01:32:01,650 series the best TV series right now that 2048 01:32:07,790 --> 01:32:04,740 I like I'm a geek yeah all of you look 2049 01:32:12,950 --> 01:32:07,800 at me know that okay 2050 01:32:16,010 --> 01:32:12,960 I like p-card you know okay real good 2051 01:32:17,690 --> 01:32:16,020 show all right so I think this is a I'm 2052 01:32:19,550 --> 01:32:17,700 gonna take this phone call and then 2053 01:32:20,420 --> 01:32:19,560 we'll come back to Picard cuz I have 2054 01:32:26,750 --> 01:32:20,430 some thoughts on the matter 2055 01:32:30,770 --> 01:32:26,760 so Ron Ron you're on the air how are you 2056 01:32:33,290 --> 01:32:30,780 brother hello and thank you Alan for a 2057 01:32:36,590 --> 01:32:33,300 live show and thank you very proud table 2058 01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:36,600 discussion I love this format thank you 2059 01:32:43,580 --> 01:32:37,650 yeah 2060 01:32:46,670 --> 01:32:43,590 square table and anyway mine is actually 2061 01:32:52,820 --> 01:32:46,680 rectangle you want to be specific but 2062 01:33:02,480 --> 01:32:52,830 anyway I have your big book the large 2063 01:33:04,820 --> 01:33:02,490 format as you call it of the populated 2064 01:33:12,050 --> 01:33:04,830 universe area go ahead wrong title in my 2065 01:33:16,190 --> 01:33:12,060 head committee sorry couldn't get it to 2066 01:33:19,010 --> 01:33:16,200 work there but anyway nothing had much 2067 01:33:22,130 --> 01:33:19,020 change here on a little postage stamp 2068 01:33:28,730 --> 01:33:22,140 where I love that what just 2069 01:33:31,010 --> 01:33:28,740 cornfield and highway I I think in town 2070 01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:31,020 things change you know some places are 2071 01:33:35,480 --> 01:33:33,690 not open you know then ordered delivery 2072 01:33:39,290 --> 01:33:35,490 only you know like coming to restaurants 2073 01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:39,300 and stuff done but uh then that grocery 2074 01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:40,650 store like I'm going and get my 2075 01:33:45,770 --> 01:33:42,570 medication and I'll get a few things and 2076 01:33:47,330 --> 01:33:45,780 it's like I'm like thinking I gotta do 2077 01:33:50,570 --> 01:33:47,340 this really fast cuz I don't want 2078 01:33:52,220 --> 01:33:50,580 anything you know getting getting on me 2079 01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:52,230 or anything like that so mentally I'm 2080 01:33:57,710 --> 01:33:55,410 thinking I usually I don't move that 2081 01:34:00,830 --> 01:33:57,720 fast you go to the grocery store I just 2082 01:34:04,220 --> 01:34:00,840 you know get eaten and go but now it's 2083 01:34:08,990 --> 01:34:04,230 like I mean I'm liking like you talking 2084 01:34:13,310 --> 01:34:09,000 about warp speed yes yeah and we're in 2085 01:34:16,130 --> 01:34:13,320 Minnesota right Ron yeah yeah yeah you 2086 01:34:19,460 --> 01:34:16,140 know we have we have almost I think 2087 01:34:23,690 --> 01:34:19,470 we're like closer to 700 positive pieces 2088 01:34:28,930 --> 01:34:23,700 or close to that now and we have like 12 2089 01:34:31,700 --> 01:34:28,940 deaths and in conjunction with the virus 2090 01:34:32,540 --> 01:34:31,710 that's not that might not sound like a 2091 01:34:34,900 --> 01:34:32,550 whole lot 2092 01:34:37,010 --> 01:34:34,910 something like New York or you know even 2093 01:34:40,670 --> 01:34:37,020 someone you know in California or 2094 01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:40,680 something like that but I mean you know 2095 01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:42,210 that's a big number 2096 01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:44,130 you know when you think about it yeah 2097 01:34:50,630 --> 01:34:45,810 that's more than Smith let's be in New 2098 01:34:53,690 --> 01:34:50,640 York Alan I was talking to someone today 2099 01:34:57,860 --> 01:34:53,700 and it remains to be substantiated of 2100 01:35:00,830 --> 01:34:57,870 course but I think that the state police 2101 01:35:03,020 --> 01:35:00,840 in Connecticut mm-hmm are stopping cars 2102 01:35:04,970 --> 01:35:03,030 coming over the border from New York and 2103 01:35:07,310 --> 01:35:04,980 not stopping them and turn him around 2104 01:35:09,980 --> 01:35:07,320 but but saying where you going 2105 01:35:11,990 --> 01:35:09,990 Hollan gonna be here let me take your 2106 01:35:13,730 --> 01:35:12,000 information we have to know where you 2107 01:35:17,450 --> 01:35:13,740 are in case you don't even know you have 2108 01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:17,460 this you know what I mean and I didn't 2109 01:35:21,140 --> 01:35:19,370 know they were taking information okay 2110 01:35:23,690 --> 01:35:21,150 what's that I didn't know they're 2111 01:35:27,470 --> 01:35:23,700 collecting information like that well 2112 01:35:28,670 --> 01:35:27,480 they're you know I mean in a pandemic I 2113 01:35:31,100 --> 01:35:28,680 mean it's kind of important to be able 2114 01:35:33,710 --> 01:35:31,110 to track people and yet you think your 2115 01:35:35,649 --> 01:35:33,720 your your rights and and right to 2116 01:35:38,770 --> 01:35:35,659 privacy and all that yeah 2117 01:35:41,799 --> 01:35:38,780 it's a slippery slope you know but what 2118 01:35:42,939 --> 01:35:41,809 do you do what were some from New York 2119 01:35:44,859 --> 01:35:42,949 and they head over to Danbury 2120 01:35:47,619 --> 01:35:44,869 Connecticut mm-hmm 2121 01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:47,629 to see a friend and they go you know out 2122 01:35:51,099 --> 01:35:49,489 for a walk in the park and they end up 2123 01:35:52,449 --> 01:35:51,109 getting someone infected now that person 2124 01:35:58,899 --> 01:35:52,459 has this infection how they get that 2125 01:36:03,250 --> 01:35:58,909 yeah you know so they can yeah thank you 2126 01:36:04,929 --> 01:36:03,260 so much oh go ahead run yep Allen yes 2127 01:36:06,669 --> 01:36:04,939 yeah I'm just gonna say this whole point 2128 01:36:10,060 --> 01:36:06,679 of staying at home is if you don't want 2129 01:36:12,099 --> 01:36:10,070 to travel tunes and transmit the virus 2130 01:36:14,199 --> 01:36:12,109 or whatever but anyway I know it's 2131 01:36:16,029 --> 01:36:14,209 difficult you want to get out after you 2132 01:36:18,279 --> 01:36:16,039 stayed home for six months in the 2133 01:36:20,109 --> 01:36:18,289 wintertime but anyway all right thank 2134 01:36:22,239 --> 01:36:20,119 you very much how long protocol and you 2135 01:36:25,029 --> 01:36:22,249 and I hope that everyone have a great 2136 01:36:27,250 --> 01:36:25,039 and safe week and we'll get through this 2137 01:36:32,589 --> 01:36:27,260 I think I believe that 2138 01:36:35,349 --> 01:36:32,599 I believe yes thank you so much run yeah 2139 01:36:38,379 --> 01:36:35,359 I'll say that New York you know we went 2140 01:36:40,799 --> 01:36:38,389 from our typical speed is warp 10 we 2141 01:36:43,810 --> 01:36:40,809 went from warp 10 to warp zero real fast 2142 01:36:46,929 --> 01:36:43,820 so it's it's been an odd adjustment for 2143 01:36:49,270 --> 01:36:46,939 all of us here and even if you out there 2144 01:36:51,579 --> 01:36:49,280 you're in a different state and things 2145 01:36:53,979 --> 01:36:51,589 aren't the same as here in New York or 2146 01:36:57,489 --> 01:36:53,989 Washington or California wherever 2147 01:36:59,709 --> 01:36:57,499 Florida you know it's affecting you all 2148 01:37:01,750 --> 01:36:59,719 we know that do you know I know New York 2149 01:37:03,129 --> 01:37:01,760 gets that attention that the idea that 2150 01:37:05,500 --> 01:37:03,139 we're the center of attention and we 2151 01:37:09,250 --> 01:37:05,510 think it's all about us what sometimes 2152 01:37:11,739 --> 01:37:09,260 can be a little true but we get it you 2153 01:37:15,399 --> 01:37:11,749 know this isn't all about yeah this is 2154 01:37:16,989 --> 01:37:15,409 this is about the nation and Mark I 2155 01:37:19,359 --> 01:37:16,999 think I think there's a point to be made 2156 01:37:21,579 --> 01:37:19,369 there if I if I have an emergency 2157 01:37:24,639 --> 01:37:21,589 and I'm and I'm going to to the doctor 2158 01:37:28,029 --> 01:37:24,649 right they need my information to take 2159 01:37:30,159 --> 01:37:28,039 care of me and so there are we had it's 2160 01:37:32,589 --> 01:37:30,169 a slippery slope but there are times 2161 01:37:34,359 --> 01:37:32,599 where for the collective good we do have 2162 01:37:37,029 --> 01:37:34,369 to do those sort of things I think it I 2163 01:37:38,199 --> 01:37:37,039 think it's important so we have another 2164 01:37:41,169 --> 01:37:38,209 call here I'm going to bring them on the 2165 01:37:42,729 --> 01:37:41,179 line before we run out of time so Mike 2166 01:37:49,300 --> 01:37:42,739 from Chicago you're on the air D of a 2167 01:37:53,770 --> 01:37:51,520 show thank you for everything you do as 2168 01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:53,780 well as race down at the K GRA thank you 2169 01:37:57,220 --> 01:37:55,370 my appreciation question for the whole 2170 01:38:01,270 --> 01:37:57,230 panel here thank you yeah 2171 01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:01,280 I'm just curious whether to your guys's 2172 01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:03,410 thoughts do you think this virus is a 2173 01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:07,130 natural occurring virus or potentially a 2174 01:38:15,970 --> 01:38:09,890 man-made virus all right who wants to 2175 01:38:20,290 --> 01:38:15,980 take that I can offer my unconsidered 2176 01:38:22,030 --> 01:38:20,300 opinion okay I've heard a lot of talk 2177 01:38:24,670 --> 01:38:22,040 saying that was engineered in the lab 2178 01:38:27,700 --> 01:38:24,680 all that and at first that's what was 2179 01:38:29,650 --> 01:38:27,710 released by the press because everybody 2180 01:38:31,270 --> 01:38:29,660 leaped at the fact that it had to escape 2181 01:38:33,670 --> 01:38:31,280 from a lab because it's so very lint or 2182 01:38:36,370 --> 01:38:33,680 whatever then they talked about the live 2183 01:38:41,770 --> 01:38:36,380 animal market in China where this 2184 01:38:45,310 --> 01:38:41,780 originated and so I as far as I'm 2185 01:38:47,110 --> 01:38:45,320 concerned we don't really know do we the 2186 01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:47,120 public doesn't really know I mean we 2187 01:38:49,660 --> 01:38:48,530 have to wait for all the data to come in 2188 01:38:51,250 --> 01:38:49,670 we have to wait for someone to do a 2189 01:38:54,310 --> 01:38:51,260 study and say hey how did this actually 2190 01:38:55,750 --> 01:38:54,320 get loose was it really from a lab I 2191 01:38:57,910 --> 01:38:55,760 don't know what you guys think but 2192 01:39:01,150 --> 01:38:57,920 that's mine I don't we can't tell right 2193 01:39:04,810 --> 01:39:01,160 now I think that the question would be 2194 01:39:09,010 --> 01:39:04,820 is there any evident evidence to suggest 2195 01:39:12,370 --> 01:39:09,020 that at all right now as far as I can 2196 01:39:17,230 --> 01:39:12,380 see it's one of these these you know 2197 01:39:20,700 --> 01:39:17,240 interspecies Tran species diseases that 2198 01:39:22,990 --> 01:39:20,710 actually jumped I mean we had that with 2199 01:39:25,770 --> 01:39:23,000 several other viruses in the United 2200 01:39:29,980 --> 01:39:25,780 States that actually not shut us down 2201 01:39:33,250 --> 01:39:29,990 but it caused very similar very 2202 01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:33,260 different but similar methods of 2203 01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:36,170 behavior and the people we had people 2204 01:39:41,710 --> 01:39:38,690 wearing masks we had counters that were 2205 01:39:44,530 --> 01:39:41,720 separated from you by a tape you know 2206 01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:44,540 this was 30 years ago for another one 2207 01:39:48,280 --> 01:39:45,890 that passed through you know I can't 2208 01:39:50,590 --> 01:39:48,290 remember which one it was but um I was a 2209 01:39:53,620 --> 01:39:50,600 kid you know pretty much when those were 2210 01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:53,630 happening so I wasn't really uh well had 2211 01:39:58,990 --> 01:39:55,130 to be more than 30 years sorry I'm old 2212 01:40:01,750 --> 01:39:59,000 anyway but we yeah and Mike I'll say 2213 01:40:02,899 --> 01:40:01,760 this last week we had dr. Joseph Burks 2214 01:40:04,610 --> 01:40:02,909 on the air and 2215 01:40:06,229 --> 01:40:04,620 you know I think I think he laid out a 2216 01:40:08,300 --> 01:40:06,239 pretty convincing 2217 01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:08,310 you know argument that this is just a 2218 01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:12,330 natural evolution and that when SARS was 2219 01:40:21,709 --> 01:40:17,330 first released like I think was 2003 2220 01:40:24,620 --> 01:40:21,719 Vera lists were saying that the natural 2221 01:40:26,510 --> 01:40:24,630 progression is that eventually something 2222 01:40:28,879 --> 01:40:26,520 worse is going to come from this and we 2223 01:40:31,070 --> 01:40:28,889 should prepare for that so it's it's 2224 01:40:35,379 --> 01:40:31,080 fascinating to me that the past 15 year 2225 01:40:40,340 --> 01:40:35,389 how many years we've been 17th gosh 2226 01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:40,350 we've been told by conspiracy theorists 2227 01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:41,250 that this is gonna happen 2228 01:40:45,970 --> 01:40:44,370 and that it's made in a lab and then we 2229 01:40:48,950 --> 01:40:45,980 also had just you know biology 2230 01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:48,960 virologist saying it's just natural and 2231 01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:51,210 I I think that if her ologists were out 2232 01:40:55,729 --> 01:40:53,850 there for decades saying almost saying 2233 01:40:57,590 --> 01:40:55,739 hey this is gonna this is gonna turn 2234 01:41:01,669 --> 01:40:57,600 into something real wean it better 2235 01:41:06,290 --> 01:41:01,679 prepare to me that's not a cover-up but 2236 01:41:08,300 --> 01:41:06,300 but you know it'll be right yeah there's 2237 01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:08,310 a third option - sure either way yeah 2238 01:41:13,340 --> 01:41:11,370 it's not just in a lab or naturally 2239 01:41:15,979 --> 01:41:13,350 occurring it's also something delivered 2240 01:41:18,590 --> 01:41:15,989 by a panspermia methodology via 2241 01:41:20,570 --> 01:41:18,600 something from outer space right yeah 2242 01:41:23,540 --> 01:41:20,580 look up Chandra we could almost see 2243 01:41:25,189 --> 01:41:23,550 again okay he's an astrophysicist and he 2244 01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:25,199 and Fred Hoyle had this theory about 2245 01:41:30,110 --> 01:41:27,570 organic molecules in space a long long 2246 01:41:31,490 --> 01:41:30,120 time ago decades and lately he's talked 2247 01:41:34,790 --> 01:41:31,500 about the possibility that this is an 2248 01:41:38,209 --> 01:41:34,800 interstellar virus I don't think so and 2249 01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:38,219 neither is he really but you can't say 2250 01:41:44,060 --> 01:41:40,530 it's not there in other words it's not 2251 01:41:45,860 --> 01:41:44,070 from there because we don't know correct 2252 01:41:52,100 --> 01:41:45,870 all right Mike Dave another question 2253 01:41:54,229 --> 01:41:52,110 before we go no thank you for everything 2254 01:41:56,479 --> 01:41:54,239 you do and the kay jury does I tuned in 2255 01:41:57,649 --> 01:41:56,489 every week you guys keep it up thank you 2256 01:42:00,200 --> 01:41:57,659 all right thank you brother appreciate 2257 01:42:02,390 --> 01:42:00,210 that night Mike all right so what the 2258 01:42:03,410 --> 01:42:02,400 minutes are counting down so Carol if 2259 01:42:07,430 --> 01:42:03,420 you can leave us with something 2260 01:42:12,919 --> 01:42:07,440 uplifting well I suppose this could be 2261 01:42:15,830 --> 01:42:12,929 uplifting on this date in 1848 the Fox 2262 01:42:18,470 --> 01:42:15,840 sisters finally and the Fox mother and 2263 01:42:20,419 --> 01:42:18,480 father in Hinesville New York called in 2264 01:42:22,609 --> 01:42:20,429 the neighbors to hear the wrappings that 2265 01:42:24,709 --> 01:42:22,619 had been bothering them for weeks and 2266 01:42:26,450 --> 01:42:24,719 weeks and weeks they seemed to uptick 2267 01:42:31,070 --> 01:42:26,460 whenever father was reading his Bible 2268 01:42:33,500 --> 01:42:31,080 etc and through a series of raps it was 2269 01:42:34,939 --> 01:42:33,510 deduced and it was very very halting 2270 01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:34,949 because they used the alphabet you know 2271 01:42:39,530 --> 01:42:37,650 a is one right okay they determined that 2272 01:42:41,959 --> 01:42:39,540 this was the spirit of a peddler named 2273 01:42:44,780 --> 01:42:41,969 Charles B rosna who was murdered in that 2274 01:42:46,669 --> 01:42:44,790 very place the heights Ville Cottage for 2275 01:42:49,820 --> 01:42:46,679 five hundred dollars that he had sewn 2276 01:42:53,990 --> 01:42:49,830 into the lining of his jacket 2277 01:42:55,939 --> 01:42:54,000 this started via the or what it actually 2278 01:42:57,979 --> 01:42:55,949 began was the American modern 2279 01:43:01,220 --> 01:42:57,989 spiritualist movement which started 2280 01:43:04,220 --> 01:43:01,230 tables turning and rapping as the 2281 01:43:06,770 --> 01:43:04,230 seances in everybody's parlor throughout 2282 01:43:11,209 --> 01:43:06,780 the country it died off eventually 2283 01:43:13,790 --> 01:43:11,219 in the 1880s I mean the fad in the 1880s 2284 01:43:17,540 --> 01:43:13,800 Maggie Fox who was in dire straits and 2285 01:43:21,050 --> 01:43:17,550 needed some bucks took some people up on 2286 01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:21,060 their offer to say that she was they 2287 01:43:25,550 --> 01:43:22,770 were faking the entire thing it wasn't 2288 01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:25,560 true but her redaction was subsequently 2289 01:43:31,250 --> 01:43:29,130 redacted however it was said to signal 2290 01:43:33,140 --> 01:43:31,260 the death of modern spiritualism so but 2291 01:43:35,930 --> 01:43:33,150 it was on this date the neighbors came 2292 01:43:37,609 --> 01:43:35,940 in and Charles Monroe is now wrapped for 2293 01:43:40,580 --> 01:43:37,619 them giving away a lot of secrets 2294 01:43:42,859 --> 01:43:40,590 including a woman who had never told her 2295 01:43:46,370 --> 01:43:42,869 husband her true age and there it was so 2296 01:43:48,500 --> 01:43:46,380 that produced much hilarity but how do 2297 01:43:54,620 --> 01:43:48,510 you shout out to the Fox sisters yes 2298 01:43:56,870 --> 01:43:54,630 when we say rapped musical oh okay no no 2299 01:43:58,970 --> 01:43:56,880 no this was a series of knocks perhaps 2300 01:44:00,020 --> 01:43:58,980 they were also known as the Rochester 2301 01:44:02,270 --> 01:44:00,030 rapping girls 2302 01:44:04,669 --> 01:44:02,280 I mean knocking girls but no no we're 2303 01:44:08,629 --> 01:44:04,679 not rap as we know it however hey what a 2304 01:44:10,310 --> 01:44:08,639 tune alrighty so so that's a Brian of 2305 01:44:13,850 --> 01:44:10,320 where what website you want to direct 2306 01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:13,860 everyone to oh yeah I mean Jason and I 2307 01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:15,690 are always pumping out new stuff over at 2308 01:44:20,859 --> 01:44:18,690 rogue planet look Planet TV or you can 2309 01:44:22,879 --> 01:44:20,869 find my website and everything I'm up to 2310 01:44:27,530 --> 01:44:22,889 podcast why is that somewhere in the 2311 01:44:29,359 --> 01:44:27,540 skies calm okay great Jason say Brian 2312 01:44:29,750 --> 01:44:29,369 said it rogue planet TV that's where we 2313 01:44:31,549 --> 01:44:29,760 put all 2314 01:44:35,540 --> 01:44:31,559 our stuff but all over social media 2315 01:44:37,970 --> 01:44:35,550 usually at a centric that's a CEC entr I 2316 01:44:40,580 --> 01:44:37,980 see on Instagram and Twitter and on 2317 01:44:44,180 --> 01:44:40,590 Facebook facebook.com slash the UFO geek 2318 01:44:47,029 --> 01:44:44,190 awesome mark oh you can find me a sky 2319 01:44:49,819 --> 01:44:47,039 tour live stream on YouTube and in face 2320 01:44:52,899 --> 01:44:49,829 book by the same name and my company is 2321 01:44:57,620 --> 01:44:52,909 at FX models.com 2322 01:45:00,049 --> 01:44:57,630 Carol well I hang out every Friday 7 2323 01:45:03,950 --> 01:45:00,059 p.m. Eastern behind the Obsidian curtain 2324 01:45:07,790 --> 01:45:03,960 on kgr a radio calm your source for all 2325 01:45:10,399 --> 01:45:07,800 things paranormal etc alright music 2326 01:45:12,680 --> 01:45:10,409 co-host on sky tour live stream yes yes 2327 01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:12,690 when you bring me up that is at listen I 2328 01:45:16,399 --> 01:45:14,489 have learned so much I can't even tell 2329 01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:16,409 you so you'll be getting a check in the 2330 01:45:22,220 --> 01:45:20,210 mail thank you so much for joining 2331 01:45:23,330 --> 01:45:22,230 family night as I'm calling it now I 2332 01:45:25,549 --> 01:45:23,340 just haven't come up with a better name 2333 01:45:28,640 --> 01:45:25,559 but that's the essence of it so thank 2334 01:45:30,500 --> 01:45:28,650 you all I really appreciate it thank you 2335 01:45:32,209 --> 01:45:30,510 great time thank you alright 2336 01:45:33,740 --> 01:45:32,219 so for everybody who's listening if you 2337 01:45:37,580 --> 01:45:33,750 want to find out more about the number 2338 01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:37,590 one radio online provider for our 2339 01:45:45,740 --> 01:45:41,130 alternative contact information 2340 01:45:49,189 --> 01:45:45,750 ETS UFOs paranormal what-have-you kgr a 2341 01:45:51,470 --> 01:45:49,199 radio.com that's the sticker right there 2342 01:45:54,979 --> 01:45:51,480 Carol thank you and I want to say a 2343 01:45:58,660 --> 01:45:54,989 special thanks to our KCRA producer race 2344 01:46:00,770 --> 01:45:58,670 hobbs I appreciate his support ongoing 2345 01:46:03,859 --> 01:46:00,780 especially through this this this rough 2346 01:46:06,649 --> 01:46:03,869 time even even a kg re there is some 2347 01:46:09,859 --> 01:46:06,659 adaptation that is occurring and that 2348 01:46:11,779 --> 01:46:09,869 right there is is a family unto itself 2349 01:46:13,790 --> 01:46:11,789 and as Carol and I so we're gonna do the 2350 01:46:16,879 --> 01:46:13,800 two earlier I'm really really grateful 2351 01:46:18,859 --> 01:46:16,889 to be a part of that family so to all of 2352 01:46:20,990 --> 01:46:18,869 you out there please be well take care 2353 01:46:24,109 --> 01:46:21,000 of yourself take care of each other lead 2354 01:46:25,050 --> 01:46:24,119 with love and until next time live in 2355 01:46:59,770 --> 01:46:25,060 the history 2356 01:46:59,780 --> 01:47:09,110 [Music]